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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby J.c. Sherman » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:46 pm

I didn't have her for long, but I liked a LOT about her... I've always loved 'em!

I sold this YEARS ago... but mine was bloody sharp... I replaced the main slide crook and extended the fourth too. I wonder where it is now...
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:26 pm

I thought this was a cool pic. Norm from NRE brassworks has the piggy on the left in his shop, and compared it to his personal horn. 800 serial numbers separate his horn from the older one on the left, but you can see cerveny made some pretty major changes in them.

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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby bort » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:32 pm

Baltimore Brass has a very new looking one. It looks just like my old 653 F tuba, just a Piggy. It's not cheap, but BBC typically knows how to price their stuff correctly.

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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:41 pm

thanks for that. you're right, it ain't cheap!

I've saved the pic to my hard drive, in case when Baltimore sells the horn they delete the pic from their server.
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:04 pm

Three little pigs at NRE brassworks.


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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby Heavy_Metal » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:21 pm

Apparently there is a BBb version of this same horn:

http://www.vfcerveny.cz/en/rotary-valve ... -cbb-603-4

Anyone try one?

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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:17 pm

ODE TO A PIGGY


Since I got my 601 and my Eb, I don't play the Piggy that much, and I've thought about selling it from time to time because I hate the thought of it going to waste. Most of the playing I'm doing now is Symphony work, and the 601 is far better suited for that kind of playing

But when I do play it, I'm still stunned at how amazing it is. This horn has both the best high range AND low range of almost any tuba I've ever played. Singing, effortless highs, and a pedal range that is as more responsive as most horns are an octave higher. It's only downside is it doesn't have the broad sound like a Thor or a 188, so it stays in the case far too often.

Had it for 20 years now, and I know if I ever sold it, I would kick myself for the rest of my life. I wish I did more quintet work, because this horn Excels in that environment




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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby taylorbeaty » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:10 pm

Horrible pic from high school, but It's a Cerveny BBb.
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby k001k47 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:46 am

the elephant wrote:Image

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This is now my piggy, and it is indeed a good one - the best I've played! 8)
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby jonesbrass » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:54 am

Love the piggies - quick response and very nice sound. Lightly built, can pick up dents more quickly if not properly cared for.

Quite a parallel, as Bort alluded to, between the design and response between the Piggy CC and the 653 F, IMHO.
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby k001k47 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:37 am

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TheHatTuba wrote:Nice pig! Curious, is the thumb ring in a comfortable place, or does it just look really high?

It's comfortable.


Mine has that style thumb ring, which I've had lowered for comfort. I have rather wide palms, but using the thumb ring in its original position was still an uncomfortable stretch. Well, after having it moved, I discovered why it's placed so high: the pull ring of the 2nd slide bumps into the thumb ring - in my case -, making slide removal impossible. I've since torched and yanked off the pull ring , and can now remove the 2nd slide. :oops:
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby tylerferris1213 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:05 am

Is the Cerveny CCB 601 considered a piggy? I know it was mentioned earlier in this thread that only one model was ACTUALLY a piggy, but other models were "piggy like." The bell on it is a lot taller than most piggies.
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:13 am

Not a Piggy at all, but they do share a valve section

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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby bort » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:32 am

The usual question is whether the 601 and Piggy the same tuba, only with a different bell. They are really close to each other, but I *think* the bows/branches are thicker on the 601 than the Piggy. Mark, is that correct?
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby EdFirth » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:04 am

I got to play on the first batch of Piggies that Walter Sear brought in.John Fletcher and Paul C(Philly) had been there the day before when John dubbed them "piggies" and Paul took six with him for him and his students. I was playing on the big .835 bore C, Mark's is a B flat, and Walter told me the C's were essentially the same horn with different bells(he didn't mention the bottom bow) and Cerveny called the small one the "Opera Model"....big sound and fits in the crowded pit nicely. Which brings up the x/4 sizing system where it's called a 3/4 like a Conn2J when the bore is one of the biggest out there.According to Walter the P{iggy has the same bore size as the huge Bb that Mark pictured. The first I heard of this sizing system was at the First International Tuba Symposium in 1973 and it's purpose was to sell Rudy Meinl tubas. The salesman actually told me that the 5/4 was just like Jake's York.Let's see, they're both tubas, and they're both big and pitched in C. My personal Cerveny was at Walter's booth at the time because he didn't have any of those .835 bore horns in stock to bring down. Anyway, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors out there. I love the operatic and Greek god names. What's next, the Godzilla model? Get your orders in now the line forms on the right. Ed
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:19 am

Both of the horns in that pic are CC tubas


I never measured the size of the branches and bows while I owned both horns (sold the piggy months ago) but I can tell you the booth bow and top branch are noticeably thicker on the 601.

If anybody wants to measure their Piggy at ferrule points, I can post the 601 measurements for comparison
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby mbell » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:08 pm

58mark wrote:Both of the horns in that pic are CC tubas
I never measured the size of the branches and bows while I owned both horns (sold the piggy months ago) but I can tell you the booth bow and top branch are noticeably thicker on the 601.


Yes, the bottom and top bows are considerably larger on the 601 Kaiser than the Piggy. I easily carry my Piggy around by holding the top bow. I can't quite get a good grip on the top bow of the 601. I usually carry it by the thumb ring, which would probably support my weight in addition to the horn's weight.

Mark, sorry to hear you sold your Piggy. That might leave me now as the only member of the Piggy & Kaiser Owners Club. I don't play my Piggy much, but will play it more with Polka season coming up.

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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby K5JMH » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:03 pm

Just purchased this CC Piggy yesterday and it is on its way to me. Should be here next week. I am looking forward to playing on this guy.

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Just from a quick look, it appears to be a mid to late 80's piggy with new paddles. Not much other info on it.
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby 58mark » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:26 pm

Congrats! Was that the one at Baltimore Brass?
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Re: Piggy Pics

Postby K5JMH » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Yes it is and it is on a truck headed to Houston! It gets to join the rest of my horns...

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