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the elephant wrote:He ain't from 'round here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Theessink

Yeah he ain't and Jon is a Northerner. But I like it nonetheless.

bloke wrote:I like it.

It's a little bit Hank Jr-ish.

I like it too! Actually it's a bit more Terry Evans-ish.

But love what Jon Sass brought to the one I posted above, great playing ...

We had a few of his CDs at KFJC when I was there - always happy to play some tuba driven blues!

No-one sings the authentic down-home blues like Dutch people.

UncleBeer wrote:No-one sings the authentic down-home blues like Dutch people.

They are also very good with truck driving songs.

UncleBeer wrote:No-one sings the authentic down-home blues like Dutch people.

Unless maybe Hungarian people. But Europe has always held a strong audience for blues and jazz, Germany and France in particular.

David Richoux wrote: They are also very good with truck driving songs.

And they sure know how to doll up their tractors!

bigtubby wrote:But Europe has always held a strong audience for blues and jazz, Germany and France in particular.

Hmmm. Ya'll seem to have missed my point. Dutch folks love to think they're 'down with' minority struggle, and as such are authentic troubadours of whatever art they wish to ride the coattails of. Aside from Hans, there's Anouk, who's eager to proclaim herself a "wigger".



and Trijntje Oosterhuis who famously recorded "Strange Fruit", a veritable anthem of black martyrdom. Here's Trijntje:



Music is music, but that these three white, Northwest European, well-off, entitled characters glom on to music styles they casually decided were "hip" smacks of opportunism.

UncleBeer wrote:Music is music, but that these three white, Northwest European, well-off, entitled characters glom on to music styles they casually decided were "hip" smacks of opportunism.

I never thought to localize that to the Netherlands. I've been involved in roots music since the 1960's and have seen the same happening from all directions since forever. I've heard many non-Dutch but still "inappropriate" singers cover Strange Fruit.

Generally I take a sort of Darwinian approach to things. If something sux it sux and won't carry very far. If it is good then it might last.

Far be it from me to denigrate some entitled person of European extraction like Joe Cocker, Eric Clapton or SRV for doing what they think is right. Those three and many other not so well known "opportunists" are embraced and lauded by the very artists they ostensibly ripped off.



<Shrug> Play what you like the way you like to hear it. </Shrug>

bigtubby wrote: I never thought to localize that to the Netherlands.

Then you can't speak from experience.

You're very fortunate to have a higher level of tolerance for that kind of nonsense.

the elephant wrote:You do know that SRV was a poor kid from Dallas who lived very meagerly in Austin for years, right? Not an opportunist at all, and *very* local since he 'made it" while playing in a bar off 6th Street called Antone's. I used to see SRV live for $3 cover and get $1 short pitchers of Shiner Bock in the deal.

His older brother still lives and plays in Austin (also grew up in Dallas)j and used to play in another little, local, musically-non-opportunistic (meaning original) band called the Fabulous Thunderbirds...

Of course Stevie was a poor kid. Without getting into a bunch of crap, it could be argued that the poorest white kid in the US is "entitled" compared with other poor kids.

Just sayin.

the elephant wrote:

bigtubby wrote:

the elephant wrote:You do know that SRV was a poor kid from Dallas who lived very meagerly in Austin for years, right? Not an opportunist at all, and *very* local since he 'made it" while playing in a bar off 6th Street called Antone's. I used to see SRV live for $3 cover and get $1 short pitchers of Shiner Bock in the deal.

His older brother still lives and plays in Austin (also grew up in Dallas)j and used to play in another little, local, musically-non-opportunistic (meaning original) band called the Fabulous Thunderbirds...

Of course Stevie was a poor kid. Without getting into a bunch of crap, it could be argued that the poorest white kid in the US is "entitled" compared with other poor kids.

Just sayin.

That was *not* what you said. It was *not* what I addressed. Reread your words. reread mine. I took care to read and respond. Please do likewise. You lumped him in with entitled Euro players. He is from TEXAS. I am responding to that. Or by "European extraction" did you mean "not black"? I do not get your words.

I'm not sure what you addressed then? Yes "European extraction" not "European". The lump was generally entitled white folks picking up on blues and jazz as opposed to people from the Nehterlands picking up on blues and jazz.

bigtubby wrote: people from the Nehterlands picking up on blues and jazz.

"picking up on"? You mean 'pretending'.

bloke wrote:none of the above worth posting the smiley-eating-popcorn icon

Yeah the only true resolution would probably be Texans violating the Lowlands ...