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Information about a video

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:41 am
by tylerferris1213
Hello everyone,

There was a thread a few weeks back on here that I'm having some trouble finding. It involved this video:

http://youtu.be/veiQb4tZuGw" target="_blank

I am doing a project for my last undergraduate music theory class, and I thought I'd do some research into this. I've tried doing research, but I can only find the venue in which the piece was performed. Any help would be appreciated. A link to the old thread would be enough.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:17 pm
by Dylan King
I hope it doesn't get performed in any other venues.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:43 pm
by tylerferris1213
I have to do in depth analysis of a post 1925 avant gard piece.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:46 pm
by eupher61
Let's get Jin Bao to clone this tuba! Think of the application it has!

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:39 pm
by mbeastep
Piernik performed a very similar piece at the 1973 conference. It impressed me at the time, but doesn't seem to have led to a lot of refinements in the last 40 years. If you want the name of the 1973 piece that involved the same modifications of the instrument, I could probably find it in my files. Come to think of it, it was probably composed by Piernik himself.

mbeastep

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:55 pm
by tylerferris1213
That would be great! It would be interesting to compare both years.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:42 am
by barry grrr-ero
"Let's get Jin Bao to clone this tuba! Think of the application it has!"

It's tuba, a blender and a carpet cleaner!

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:16 am
by stefano2015
Interesting stuff. Thanks:)

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:16 am
by Untersatz
Oh Geez.........now I know where the term "squeak & fart" music came from :shock:

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:27 am
by Untersatz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3SwjZE-n-I" target="_blank

This one is even better!!! :P

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:01 am
by rodgeman
He has a Facebook page: https://pl-pl.facebook.com/zdzislawpiernik Maybe you can use Google Translate to get more info.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:03 am
by bisontuba
I remember seeing him in 1979(?) at a recital in LA for ITEC--he was so into it he almost fell off his chair ....most interesting :D
Mark

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:39 am
by tylerferris1213
Thanks, rogeman

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:29 pm
by MackBrass
This kind of writing is not my cup of tea, couldn't get past the first minute. Not saying there was anything wrong with the player or the performace at all, just dont care for writers writing for effect and not the audience pleasure.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:35 pm
by bighonkintuba
Pleasure is in the ear of the beholder/audience member. Cool piece and performance.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:39 pm
by ginnboonmiller
TubaMusikMann wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3SwjZE-n-I" target="_blank

This one is even better!!! :P
That's an amazing performance. Piernik is a giant of the Central European avant-garde, which is a big and amazing scene.

Tyler, you want to google Boguslaw Schaeffer, who is the pianist and composer here. He and Piernik and Penderecki are kind of the big-time post-WWII Polish musical avant-garde. Schaeffer's stuff merits a lot of attention.

A very brief glance at Schaeffer's wikipedia page shows that he wrote a piece for tuba and piano called "Minimal Art" in 1977. Looking at the hair and clothes on the video performance, story checks out. Try to get a score, or just analyze a different piece. Schaeffer's manuscripts are just mind-numbingly awesome to look at. beyond the graphic representation of the sound, though, there's a ton of open interpretation and improvisation involved in playing his music. So you can't really get in depth in terms of analysis without knowing what the musicians are reacting to visually.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:08 pm
by mbeastep
tylerferris1213 wrote:That would be great! It would be interesting to compare both years.
Sorry, I sorted through my programs from the first conference and did not find one for the Piernik concert. There does not seem to be much information about him online in English, so I can't help.

mbeastep

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:09 pm
by eutubabone
Hey,
Didn't we play a piece called "whales" where we were supposed to enter the auditorium one at a time playing some music, I can't remember what,and it was at Ball State University(Les Varner was teacher there?). Was that the first conference for TUBA? I wouldn't be surprised. Alot of experimental music was going on in the music schools at that time too.

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:51 am
by teddy_b
Zdzislaw Piernik? Is he Polish?

Re: Information about a video

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:50 pm
by Jeff Keller
This is the most entertaining thing I've seen in a long time!! :lol: