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tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:00 pm

Obviously "The Donald" is enjoying his ride around the golf course that the other guy, "his very good friend Hussain Sajwani" named in his honor. Makes me want to throw up, and I am a conservative.

bort · Post by **bort** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:12 pm

Good ol' Mittens ain't looking so bad now, is he?

bort · Post by **bort** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:04 pm

bloke wrote:The "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't get anyone very far, as people end up arguing over their favorite Evil.

Clearly. That's what primary elections and debates are all about!

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:17 pm

bloke wrote: The "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't get anyone very far, as people end up arguing over their favorite Evil.

Mine is gluttony, but that's obvious to everyone with eyes.

Heavy_Metal · Post by **Heavy_Metal** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:09 am

bort wrote:Good ol' Mittens ain't looking so bad now, is he?

Romnesia!

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:03 pm

bort wrote:Good ol' Mittens ain't looking so bad now, is he?

Heck, I miss Carter!!

Carter explicitly outlined the reasons behind the issuance of sanctions (including visa cancellation for Iranian nationals) and underscored his intent to pressure Iran's regime. By contrast, Trump's proposal was markedly different: not a sanction, but a security measure framed as a counterterrorism strategy, and one directed at all adherents of a particular religion (regardless of their nationalities) rather than citizens of a particular country. Moreover, Carter's sanctions occurred during a lengthy period of escalating conflict between Iran and the United States (while U.S. hostages remained in foreign captivity), but Trump's proposal came in response to a mass shooting perpetrated by an American citizen and his immigrant wife.

http://www.snopes.com/jimmy-carter-bann ... mmigrants/" target="_blank

But the biggest difference between the two??

Carter was the President and actually did it.

Trump is a loudmouth who only popped off about it but is powerless to actually do anything!!

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:05 pm

Oh, my favorite sin is sloth.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:57 pm

Three Valves wrote:
one directed at all adherents of a particular religion (regardless of their nationalities)

As long as people continue to belive Islam is just a religion, and ignore the political aspect, we are doomed.

http://www.politicalislam.com/about/

Islam is a cultural, religious and political system. Only the political system is of interest to kafirs (non-Muslims) since it determines how we are defined and treated

The head of American Islamic Forum for Democracy supports the ban Trump called for. Until such time as a way to reliably separate the political aspects.
http://aifdemocracy.org/declaration-of- ... er-4-2015/

We are Muslims who live in the 21st century. We stand for a respectful, merciful and inclusive interpretation of Islam. We are in a battle for the soul of Islam, and an Islamic renewal must defeat the ideology of Islamism, or politicized Islam, which seeks to create Islamic states, as well as an Islamic caliphate.

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:13 pm

It's that old time religion. Back in the day, the lieutenants of the "prince of peace" weren't doing their job if there weren't at least a few heretics burned alive, and sometimes more than a few (e.g. Albigensian Crusade.)

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:18 pm

Donn wrote:It's that old time religion. Back in the day, the lieutenants of the "prince of peace" weren't doing their job if there weren't at least a few heretics burned alive, and sometimes more than a few (e.g. Albigensian Crusade.)

Exactly.

Isn't it amazing how some religions have progressed over the last 700 years and others, well, not so much??

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:04 pm

Three Valves wrote:Isn't it amazing how some religions have progressed over the last 700 years and others, well, not so much??

Look in the right place, and you'll find what you want to find. In the west, you have to look harder, because post Rennaissance western culture is less accepting of religious terrorism, but see for example Ku Klux Klan in the early part of the last century, with membership apparently 15% of the eligible US population.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:04 pm

Three Valves wrote: Isn't it amazing how some religions have progressed over the last 700 years and others, well, not so much??

Very much so.

bisontuba · Post by **bisontuba** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:35 pm

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:58 am

Donn wrote:
Three Valves wrote:Isn't it amazing how some religions have progressed over the last 700 years and others, well, not so much??
Look in the right place, and you'll find what you want to find. In the west, you have to look harder, because post Rennaissance western culture is less accepting of religious terrorism....

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:02 am

bloke wrote:
It IS good to see (per Mark's meme) that none of four brothers are involved in Islamic extremism.

I don't remember anyone denigrating their or anyone's service, do you??

(Maybe it was the Straw Man)

gwwilk · Post by **gwwilk** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:23 am

Hmm...I believe the longest running thread in TubeNet history has run seriously off the rails!

I'm not going to be able to play at our Capitol Carols tomorrow for the first time in years because severe left knee pain prevents me from schlepping a tuba up and down flights of stairs.

Maybe I'll be ready next year after my orthopedist and physical therapist have recommended and we've carried out the best course of action regarding the knee.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:37 am

gwwilk wrote:Hmm...I believe the longest running thread in TubeNet history has run seriously off the rails!

Well I, for one, continue to still be uninformed!

Three Valves · Post by **Three Valves** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:51 am

gwwilk wrote: I'm not going to be able to play at our Capitol Carols tomorrow for the first time in years because severe left knee pain prevents me from schlepping a tuba up and down flights of stairs. Maybe I'll be ready next year after my orthopedist and physical therapist have recommended and we've carried out the best course of action regarding the knee.

Stop reminding me why I need a Tornister tuba even though I don't really need one!!

bisontuba · Post by **bisontuba** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:56 pm

bloke wrote:
Three Valves wrote:
I don't remember anyone denigrating their or anyone's service, do you??

(Maybe it was the Straw Man)
yep.

To share poli-memes that do not base they main points on lies, misrepresentations, or stuff-manufactured-from-whole-cloth, only share libertarian memes.

Three Valves wrote:Thanks for reinforcing my point.

exactly. ' time for another 1.6 billion folks (or at least a significant percentage who - when polled - say that terrorism is "sometimes justified") to come along and embrace tolerance. Those who cannot tolerate are...well...intolerable.

We need to find Joe some ole 'Love Beads' from the sixty's along with a Neru jacket

Dubby · Post by **Dubby** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:47 pm

I think I am finally coming to terms that I am not a piston guy...now the tuba envy sets in as I browse various websites for those with rotors...

Oh yeah, give me liberty please

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