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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby eupher61 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:53 pm

I"m going to crucify this name, but Rich Chimengo (spelling and first name could be totally wrong) was with Lombardo in the 70s at some point also.
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby Bill Troiano » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:27 am

I believe Rich was the tubist who played after I left. I was there from 1975 - 78. I followed Jack Faye who was with the band for 12 years.
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby Søren » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:15 am

The early bigband of Cab Calloway (The Missourians and so on) used a sousaphone as bass for many years. Also in the era that you inquire about. I have no idea who played it though....
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby LoyalTubist » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:55 am

Guy Lombardo and early Cab Calloway were NOT Big Band bands. Big Band music first appeared on the musical scene in about 1934 and Benny Goodman was probably the first person to use that name for this genre of music...

Let's think about the style of music that was popular through World War II, not immediately after World War I.

All the bands in the 1920s had tuba players because that was the common bass used then.
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby pursuitdriver » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:52 am

eupher61 wrote:don't forget Lombardo's Royal Canadians

Two Great Tuba players with Guy were Johnny Evans and William Lewin
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby David Richoux » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:59 pm

LoyalTubist wrote:Guy Lombardo and early Cab Calloway were NOT Big Band bands. Big Band music first appeared on the musical scene in about 1934 and Benny Goodman was probably the first person to use that name for this genre of music...

Let's think about the style of music that was popular through World War II, not immediately after World War I.

All the bands in the 1920s had tuba players because that was the common bass used then.


There were two basic categories of jazz bands (not including New Orleans Brass Bands ) from the 1920s onward - those under around 10 pieces and those over around 10 pieces. The first were usually called "Bands" and the 2nd were called "Big Bands" (or sometimes "Large Bands.") Sometimes there were string players (even just guitar or banjo) and they might have been called "Orchestra" if the leader wanted to be fancy. I have hundreds of recordings by groups before 1934 that were considered at the time to be "Big Bands." What you are describing in the post 1934 era is more usually called "Swing Band." There are sub-categories of Big Bands based on the style of music played - Dance, Hot, Sweet, Corny, Novelty, etc. - that may have been determined by the fans or promoters and not what the bands called themselves.

Also, the use of Double Bass instead (or with) Tuba (or Sousaphone) in the 1920s to 1930s has been discussed a lot on TubeNet - it depended on the recording studio set-up (mechanical or electric microphones) or playing situation. Most bass players doubled on string bass and tuba, so you can't exactly say tuba was the common bass used then.
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby Josef Rieder » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:23 am

Pete Rugolo, who wrote/arranged many of Stan Kenton's charts, had a tuba player in his band as well. His appropriately named "Song for Tuba" features his tubist. Not sure who he was though...
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby TubaTinker » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:13 pm

Interesting picture:
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby hrender » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:09 pm

Well, based on this eBay item, I'd guess that Howard Workman was the tubist for Sammy Kaye.

As for Kay Kyser, this album lists Lloyd Snow on the tuba credit.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby snorlax » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:55 pm

Dan,
Interesting valve cluster on the sousa...any hypotheses?
Also looks as if a couple of the guys borrowed the lady's lipstick & makeup.

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Re: Big Band Tuba Players...

Postby Bob Kolada » Thu May 13, 2010 10:41 pm

No visible tuning slide, back bow "stuff", loooong handslide- is that a German trombone?
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