*OLD* Star Trek

[TonyZ]

Hi, all

Since school is out, I've been perusing the CBS.com website, and stumbled across complete episodes of Star Trek, TOS. While watching, "The Menagerie -- part 2" I noticed a particularly GREAT bit of tuba playing during a fight scene with Captain Pike and a Rigellian, I believe. Anyone have a clue who that might have been? Perhaps the trio of Poomshanka, Self and Pearson may have some insight. I checked the archives, and found nothing! See the episode here:

http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/v ... &play=true" target="_blank" target="_blank

Watch out!! The commercials are LOUD!!!

[jimself]

Depends on what year this is. The TV shows were a tuba/bass trombone doubling job. I played most of the last several years before it went off the air. Before me was Slide Hyde and before him it may have been Tommy Johnson or Don Waldrop. Just a guess!

[Todd S. Malicoate]

I also always assumed the tuba work for TOS was done by Tommy Johnson (unless, by some chance that probably could not be confirmed, he "got a sub" for a particular session), but that assumption isn't based on anything I can look up. These tracks would have been recorded between 1965 and 1969 - there were 79 televised episodes and an original (unused) pilot "The Cage" (some nice music in that one as well that was never re-used).

[jimself]

I don't know what TOS or those other acronyms mean DUH?---It may have been Tommy in 1965-1969 but he was just beginning his studio career and there were several other tuba players working at that time including George Bouje, John Bambridge, Sam Rice and Clarence Karella. George did a lot of TV including the early Flintstones. Someday there will be an archive about tuba in TV. I didn't get to LA until 1974. I believe Don Waldrop was in LA in the late 60's too.

Jim Self

[Uncle Buck]

You see, we Star Trek nerds just assume that the rest of the universe is made up of other Star Trek nerds.

TOS - the original series (Shatner, Nimoy)
TNG - The Next Generation (Patrick Stewart and crew)

[Todd S. Malicoate]

Sorry for the unknown abbreviation, Jim, and thanks for the information. To continue:

TAS = The Animated Series
DS9 = Deep Space Nine
VOY = Star Trek: Voyager
ENT = Star Trek: Enterprise

An archive about studio playing for television would be welcomed. There is a great deal of information available about the composers for classic TV shows, but so little written about the players who recorded it.

Todd, listening to the superb use of tuba in tracks from "The Doomsday Machine."

[tubashaman2]

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[Steve Marcus]

These tracks would have been recorded between 1965 and 1969 - there were 79 televised episodes and an original (unused) pilot "The Cage" (some nice music in that one as well that was never re-used).

I'm hardly the ultimate Star Trek authority. But the two-part episode, "The Menagerie," consisted of most of the formerly unseen pilot episode, "The Cage." It was rejuvenated and edited for color (the pilot episode itself was archived in B&W).

That IS a great tuba solo in the scene where Captain Pike is fighting with the Rigelian. Unlike many other Star Trek music clips, this one was not recycled in other episodes. I believe that the music to the soundtrack for that episode was by Alexander Courage himself, who wrote the theme (but not much more of the soundtrack music in future episodes).

[Todd S. Malicoate]

I'm hardly the ultimate Star Trek authority. But the two-part episode, "The Menagerie," consisted of most of the formerly unseen pilot episode, "The Cage." It was rejuvenated and edited for color (the pilot episode itself was archived in B&W).

That IS a great tuba solo in the scene where Captain Pike is fighting with the Rigelian. Unlike many other Star Trek music clips, this one was not recycled in other episodes. I believe that the music to the soundtrack for that episode was by Alexander Courage himself, who wrote the theme (but not much more of the soundtrack music in future episodes).

You're right, Steve. Most of that pilot was re-used in "The Menagerie." The bit I like that wasn't is the closing credits from the pilot - never heard again on the series.

The tuba solo in question (first 4 minutes or so)