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				The Muppets
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:19 am
				by sousaphone68
				Anybody know who and what was the helicon in the leaving Smalltown number in The Muppets?
			 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:10 pm
				by Troy
				Do you have a movie clip or audio file of his recording.. I'm interested to see who it would be 

 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:52 pm
				by sousaphone68
				I have searched youtube and have so far failed to find a clip that shows the section I am talking about.
Will keep looking
			 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:48 am
				by Agelaus
				might be no help at all, but here is a picture of the scene, you can see him in the far back.
http://www.me-on-a-diet.com/wp-content/ ... y-song.jpg"  target="_blank
 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:08 pm
				by hbcrandy
				Chances are that the person with the helicon was just an extra actor and not a real player.
			 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:03 am
				by Bob Bigalard
				hbcrandy wrote:Chances are that the person with the helicon was just an extra actor and not a real player.
It just sickens me to think of that.
 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:21 am
				by eupher61
				Bob Bigalard wrote:hbcrandy wrote:Chances are that the person with the helicon was just an extra actor and not a real player.
It just sickens me to think of that.
 
Total reality, though.
 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:11 pm
				by David Richoux
				All of the musicians look like high school or maybe college age, agree they could be actors. Possibly recruited from USC or some other area band? 
The t-bone player is getting into the role 

 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:47 am
				by eupher61
				I hope it's generally known that in 99% of the movies or tv shows (ads, too) since whatever date (probably the 50s sometime, I'm really not sure), a person shown on screen playing an instrument is NOT actually playing.  The actor's unions and the musicians union have agreements that keep that from happening, or give a lot of pay to the musicians who actually do play.  I can only think of one instance in the last 20 years, there may be others---Robert Altman's "Kansas City".  And it's a smorgasbord of great players, including Christian McBride, Ron Carter, Fathead Newman, Joshua Redman, Nicholas Payton, and a great singer and friend, Kevin Mahogany.  The music is really the best part of the film, and the recordings were done on the set, in a building in the 18th and Vine district in KC.  
Often they use musicians who have SAG cards, so the faking is a lot more believable.  A past friend, whose name evades me right now, used to make some good money doing that.  
I'll have to ask Vince Giordano, but I don't think he actually played on screen in "The Aviator".  He was on the soundtrack, and was shown in the movie, but not "live", IIRC.
			 
			
					
				Re: The Muppets
				Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:13 pm
				by David Richoux
				A friend played the drums in the Goldie Hawn movie 
"Swing Shift" as part of a big band - he was on the set for days, and he is a professional musician - but all that can be seen of him in the final cut was the top of his head...