Dean E wrote:That's a depressingly pessimistic, narcissistic, general statement to make about people. When I feel like people do not live up to my expectations I ask myself, "Self, why am I feeling so angry or sad about people?"
Huh? What you prescribe is far more likely to be depressing. I'd really be depressed if I spent my time looking for ways to blame myself for others who choose to be a jerk. But I often do just that.
I think it's enough to make sure our own behavior is exemplary, and then refuse to feel guilty on behalf of someone else.
Rick "not angry or sad about people, but about what they often do" Denney
I've found that there is pretty much a gaussian distribution of personalities in any profession. That is, most will be "average" in most respects, and there will be a few on the fringes who are either saints or devils. The categorization of saint or devil depends on one's own place on the spectrum.
Dean E wrote:That's a depressingly pessimistic, narcissistic, general statement to make about people. When I feel like people do not live up to my expectations I ask myself, "Self, why am I feeling so angry or sad about people?"
Huh? What you prescribe is far more likely to be depressing. I'd really be depressed if I spent my time looking for ways to blame myself for others who choose to be a jerk. But I often do just that.
I think it's enough to make sure our own behavior is exemplary, and then refuse to feel guilty on behalf of someone else.
Rick "not angry or sad about people, but about what they often do" Denney
Rick, nothing was said about feeling guilty or blaming myself for others' actions. There's no sense in giving that kind of control to anyone.
For me, maybe not others, introspection is an enrichening, acquired art--an ongoing, lifelong process. The unexamined life is not worth living.
Negative thinking (i.e., not trusting others) is bound to harvest negativity from others. Why dig that hole any deeper? What's the payoff? Isolation? A wide and safe personal boundary? Insulation against dealing with real issues?
Dean E
[S]tudy politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy . . . in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry [and] music. . . . John Adams (1780)
bloke wrote:Both the HPO and the BCP use a jug, so there would obviously be no tuba...??
Would that be a BBb jug or a CC jug?
You see? There's the sort of thing those darn truck drivers bring up. Next thing you know, they'll ask if the jugs are lacquer or silver. Personally, I would prefer the jugs not be lacquer or silver.
I know this subject has gone to the humorous side(when do they not ) but here's my view. I've met some good tuba players that were complete jackasses. I've also met some not so good tuba players who were great people to be around. The bottom line is that people are people. You've got the nice ones and the ones you'd rather punch in the mouth. How a person might play the tuba has NOTHING to do with how they are.
Great posts on this thread. Two from Rick Denney and Mary Ann on the brilliant side and Schlep's humor has me sliding out of my chair.
I agree, sbring, that tuba players seldom dissapoint.
But there is always that ten percent!
I find lady tuba players to be vivacious and fun. I also found killer players on any instrument that I have been fortunate enough to meet to be mostly generous and caring to their audience and fans as well as their families.
) but here's my view. I've met some good tuba players that were complete jackasses. I've also met some not so good tuba players who were great people to be around. The bottom line is that people are people. You've got the nice ones and the ones you'd rather punch in the mouth. How a person might play the tuba has NOTHING to do with how they are. 