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quinterbourne wrote:People in Europe enjoy classical oriented concerts a lot more than here is North America. I guess the "culture" of it is bigger there.
Yeah. Kind of like the "culture" of hating Jews and Americans.

I'll take individual freedom and poor musical taste over "cultured" communities who listen to Brahms and Zappa any day, any time.

God bless America.

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windshieldbug wrote:So? It's a conductor... are you going to pretend that you've never been on the receiving end of this before!? :shock:
How else are going to energize over 50 tubas?

At the 3:40 mark the conductor prepares to take a tuba solo in Bolero Mil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-u0TUIgPnU&eurl=

After some Googling I learned that the conductor is David Llacer (Sirerol). A post on ABC Musicos raves, ". . . todo un espectáculo."
http://abcmusicos.com/ftopict-10829.htm ... 5c6a7de3e0

Senor Llacer is listed on one site as Tuba solista de la Orquesta Sinfónica de Valencia, and was also solista for Orquesta Sinfónica de Tenerife.
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quinterbourne wrote:Good ole quinterbourne gittin' politcal:

As opposed to the "culture" of hating blacks, muslims and Mexicans? I'm not saying you hate the groups I listed, but I bet you just as many (if not more) Americans hate those groups compared to Europeans hating Jews/Americans.
What if you add the Europeans who don't seem to want to tolerate muslims or immigrants from Africa? Or Indians? It's quite easy to be high-minded when the population is homogeneous, isn't it? Now that this is no longer the case in Europe, problems are emerging.

But I'm still trying to find the "culture of hating blacks," especially if it's supposed to be more pronounced than the culture of hating whites from different social strata or region, or any other lines people draw to separate themselves from others. Those lines are not unique to America by any means, despite its geographical, social, and demographic diversity.

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MellowSmokeMan wrote:
quinterbourne wrote:People in Europe enjoy classical oriented concerts a lot more than here is North America. I guess the "culture" of it is bigger there.
Yeah. Kind of like the "culture" of hating Jews and Americans.

I'll take individual freedom and poor musical taste over "cultured" communities who listen to Brahms and Zappa any day, any time.

God bless America.

-MSM
Religion and politics are tricky matters!

I am totally aware that two infamous European –isms have caused innumerable cases of death, suffering, and sorrow in the decades around my date of birth.

I am aware, that the Danish fishermen salvaging the overwhelming majority of the Danish Jewish community during WWII asked for a lot of money to risk their boats and their lives.

But I have in a musical context met one of these Danish Jews, who happened to be in a far out provincial place, when the nazis went for the Danish Jews. He had absolutely no complaints about having coughed up the cash for being transported to Sweden.

My father was a fundraiser within the resistance, as I later on have been it in cultural contexts. That’s why I was raised in Germany, where my father went to teach within the Danish minority after the war.

I was raised in liberal Protestant Christianity, but my social surroundings were brainless conservative Protestants after I moved to Denmark.

I left the Church of Denmark. My father didn’t like that, as he was a high ranking official within the voluntary functions of the church. But he by now accepts, that I consider myself a non-converted Jew (no knives are allowed around my private parts).

The argument bringing me out on top of any discussion even with theologists is: Jesus never considered himself as anything but a Jew.

Still some of my best musical performances have been carried out within the Faroese and Danish Protestant churches. I loved to play in churches, but mostly I had to reduce myself to being the organiser and conductor.

Like I see some Scandinavian languages just being variants of each others (a point of view not popular in Norway), then I see no real problems between the Jewish and Christian religions.

It may be known that my little coastal provincial town for periods has been under a state of siege caused by Palestinians faking as refugees committing murder and arson.

Recent court cases caused heavy sentences. And they revealed to my surprise, that the Palestinian clan causing the problems was Christian. So I could not air my religious biases.

I am not biased against Americans. The best-educated ones are excellent carriers of the cultural heritage from all over the world.

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Wow....I just thought it would be neat for a bunch of people to come and hear a big tuba ensemble...apparently the first work that we'll play will be called "Rhetoric"
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