Need some help from fellow Tubenetters

Tubaguyjoe · Post by **Tubaguyjoe** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:56 am

if you end up in germany give me a call. Im in Stuttgart, ill introduce you to the local teachers and whatnot. -Joe

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:23 pm

Scooby Tuba wrote:The last time I was in Germany the exchange was DM3.4=$1...
The street vendors were charging DM1 for a tasty sausage on a wonderful hard roll and one town's brewery charged DM1 for a 4 pack of 1/2 litre bottles of the best pilsner I've ever had... (2 litres of great beer for 29 cents...).
Those were the days...

Those days were quite a long time ago.

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:24 pm

bloke wrote: I'll try to avoid your future flames by making inane comments about beer, like everyone else.
bloke "I wasn't being sarcastic...until just now."

Beer, inane?

tubalex · Post by **tubalex** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:03 pm

Jr. High-Yamaha 4/4 piston B-flat

High School- yamaha 4/4 rotary B-flat

Undergrad College-
Miraphone 186 CC (sold quickly after purchase)
HB 1p
PT 10
Holton 6/4 Rusk cut CC

Masters-
PT 7p
Meinl weston 45 sl
yamaha 822 f (for about 3 months)
rudy meinl 3/4 CC (blissfully my 3rd tuba, sold to pay debt)

doctorate
PT 6
PT 15 (4 years)
PT 10
yamaha 622 CC (2 years as 3rd horn)

Professional so far-
PT 6
PT 10

-Alex Lapins

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:29 pm

EuphManRob wrote:goldenmoose, Given what you've told me, unless it would seriously hamper your chances of future employment in the Orlando area (you still haven't told us why you thought that it might), I would definitely go for it. The only other reason I might advise not doing so is if you are saving money for some future long-term thing (such as getting married or trying to move), in which case you would want to be making as much money as possible.

The Euphman beat me to it. That's my advice too.

Cheers,
Allen

ken k · Post by **ken k** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:35 pm

why would you lose alot of work in the future if you went to Germany?

ken k

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:38 pm

I agree with Bloke. Even now, we don't know enough. And Allen is right that this becomes more about those responding than about the original poster. But then, that sort of response has real value, too.

I can't see how going to Germany would hurt future job prospects. Are you afraid of losing a theme park gig? I can assure you that those can evaporate like a snowflake in the river, even if you have nodding assurance you'll be brought back for the next year. Ask TubaRay and myself. Ask Gail Robertson. You'd be pretty disappointed to miss the experience of a summer in Germany only to find that whatever you thought you were gaining in Orlando got swept away with a management decision.

After all, playing in a theme park is not exactly a career gig. Those who have been very successful for more than a few years doing it (e.g. Gail Robertson again) are the exception. Even headliners rarely get really long-term gigs.

These are jobs to enjoy when you can get them, but not to build a life's work.

Think strategically about Germany. So, the pay may not be so good. Can you get lessons from a high-end player in Germany while you are there? It might enhance rather than diminish your future job prospects if you can take advantage of Europe's deeper cultural resources. Americans are always impressed when people "study abroad". That would be a way to leverage the pay you would be giving up.

Actually, the advice is to think strategically, period. Balance the effects of your decision on your short-term situation with what you might be able to for your long-term situation.

Rick "who wishes he had spent a summer in Europe at some time in the past" Denney

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:13 pm

bloke wrote:Four weeks one summer when I was in my twenties (England/Wales/Scotland/Nederlands) was enough for a bloke playing gigs in a band with
... ... ...

Joe, I'm sorry I missed the movie! (I can't imagine there not being one.)

It could have been worse; you only had to put up with other peoples' spouses/significant others. For even higher pain levels, there could have been: other peoples' kids and/or other peoples' pets. Anyway, it sounds like enough to make one speculate about the threshold for justifiable homicide.

The situation you describe isn't unique to Europe. It is, however, a cautionary note for anyone considering a gig or tour away from home terrirory.

Myself, I'm glad I got to spend a semi-working summer in Europe when I was young.

Cheers,
Allen

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:20 pm

bloke wrote:Four weeks one summer when I was in my twenties (England/Wales/Scotland/Nederlands) was enough for a bloke

Don't blame a good concept for failure caused by poor execution.

Rick "who has found a way to get the package to Memphis by about June 14 or 15--workable?" Denney

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:33 pm

Close your eyes. If you see yourself going-GO. It's really that simple.
I had a chance to travel overseas and I went. It made me happy.
I cringed as I read of Joe's tour with B.S. going on. I toured with a lead guitarist and girl singer right before they divorced.

Anyone, like mois, who likes to travel will do so at the drop of a hat. I got to see cool places from New Zealand to Siberia but I also learned that we only need go around the next bend to be in a whole new universe-stocked with some really neat people.
Biers to you,
toots

http://www.johnreno.com/news.html

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:59 pm

Doc wrote:
bloke wrote: pacify wimmin."
The ultimate excercise in futility.

And now we know for certain who the misogynists on Tubenet are.

MA

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:37 pm

goldenmoose wrote:thanks for the responses. i was purposely vague in the first response, so here is some more info...

23 years old
roud-trip airfare is included
housing is included
been working at theme parks in orlando since age 17

No brainer. Get on the plane.

but first, ask here about the best way to ship your tuba by air.

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:41 pm

Rick Denney wrote:

Rick "who wishes he had spent a summer in Europe at some time in the past" Denney

in 12 months, this coming summer will be "in the past".

if not now...when?

You're rich as Croesus, rick - get on the plane!

Ken "Anyone know of a tuba instructor in Florence?" Sloan

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:18 pm

sloan wrote:You're rich as Croesus, rick - get on the plane!

Heh, heh. You are funny when you are joking.

Rick "whose few riches are already spoken for" Denney

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:13 pm

Likewise, I really enjoyed the time spent in Europe for a variety of trips, including college choir trips and grad school internships. Mine were for university credits instead of cash, but worth it all the more.

Now, if someone would just offer me a job in the UK....

Steve Oberheu · Post by **Steve Oberheu** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:18 am

Germany. You won't regret it!!