Is the Cerveny CBB 793 a Kaisertuba?

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Is the Cerveny CBB 793 a Kaisertuba?

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Has anyone played one of these?
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The information on the web seems rather conflicting. They on the one hand say it is 4/4 "Piggy" and on the other a "Kaisertuba". Which is it? Does it have a Kaisertuba sound?
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Post by Rob »

Hey, I'll throw my two cents out...

I think what they are referring to with the "Kaiser" listing, is that is has a large 'Kaiser' bell. The bell on this horn is supposed to be around 19.7 inches, which I think is bigger than the usual one on a Piggy.

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easy, think of it as a "compact Kaiser," or a "pocket Kaiser." :lol:

This one is on my short list of BBb's, especially given the open wrap puts the bell closer to my ear than a typical german long-bell.
Willson 3050S CC, Willson 3200S F, B&S PT-10, BMB 6/4 CC, 1922 Conn 86I
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I thought Arion was the musician of greek mythology who was robbed of his musical contest prize by some pirates, thrown overboard and left for dead, was rescued by a dolphin, and got his revenge. I could be wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arion
Willson 3050S CC, Willson 3200S F, B&S PT-10, BMB 6/4 CC, 1922 Conn 86I
Gone but not forgotten:
Cerveny 681, Musica-Steyr F, Miraphone 188, Melton 45, Conn 2J, B&M 5520S CC, Shires Bass Trombone, Cerveny CFB-653-5IMX, St. Petersburg 202N
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Dave, my vote is on the Greek hero of music and justice.
Willson 3050S CC, Willson 3200S F, B&S PT-10, BMB 6/4 CC, 1922 Conn 86I
Gone but not forgotten:
Cerveny 681, Musica-Steyr F, Miraphone 188, Melton 45, Conn 2J, B&M 5520S CC, Shires Bass Trombone, Cerveny CFB-653-5IMX, St. Petersburg 202N
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Post by Ulli »

You may say to the 793 'Kaisertuba'. It's allright.
BTW: The Arion has a 360 mm bell and 20,1 mm bore- no Kaisertuba :-)

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Ulli wrote:You may say to the 793 'Kaisertuba'. It's allright.
BTW: The Arion has a 360 mm bell and 20,1 mm bore- no Kaisertuba :-)

Ulli
with Cerveny 701 Kaisertuba
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You are getting models confused! The 683/783 is the model with a 360 mm bell. What I was referring to is the 693/793 with 500 mm bell. Strangely Cerveny seems to call them both 'Arion' to get us all confused :roll:

See http://www.amati.cz/english/production/ ... _Tubas.htm
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