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Mojo workin' wrote:Don't get another piece of paper that says that you can play. If you've got serious aspirations to teach at the college level someday, continue on your path. If not, move to Chicago or New York or somewhere else to get yourself around a worldclass player and teacher, and study with and listen to him/her. Good schools are too damned expensive these days to get a degree from that will not give you secure marketable skills. I wish someone had said this to me about 15 years ago.

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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

If I could give anyone advice as to the wisdom of pursuing an increasing supply, decreasing demand career such as tuba playing/teaching, I would say to forget the idea and choose one of these jobs-
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag ... /index.htm

When you are forty, have student loan and credit card debt and are trying to find a solid path financially as you will have to, your choices will be so much more abundant and clear if you have not chosen the tuba performance route. The world becomes more and more concerned with the accumulation of material wealth everyday, less and less concerned with preserving tradition or fine arts, etc. Well funded arts organizations are on the decline and will cease to exist in many ways by the time a present college student will hit senior citizen status. This may sound bleak, but I have watched the trend begin in my 15 or so years out of college.

Watch how your local professional sports team is supported as opposed to your local orchestra or opera company in the next few years, or review how they have been in the past five years. I would be surprised if the arts organizations are not reporting less and less ticket sales every year, and the football or baseball team not reporting record profits and ticket sales.
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I went to a theological seminary to earn a master's degree in tuba. Since the music school at the seminary was mostly voice teachers (with regards to performance), I could study with whomever I wanted. I studied with the late Everett Gilmore and it was worth it.

My work was teaching at a public high school near the University of North Texas and there were other grad students there, who were also coaching instrumentalists on a part-time basis. Sometimes, I brought my homework with me, when I'd know that I'd have an hour or two for preparation. The North Texas students were very envious of some of the coursework I took.

I do think that Joe (Bloke) is right on this. Don't let a bunch of anonymous people on a forum convince you what you have to do here.

Had I listened to those voices, I would have gone a different way and I wouldn't have had some of the fantastic experiences I've had in my life.
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I am one of those '1000 of performance majors who have been told they can get jobs' truth is though, no one actually has told me that I will find a job. All I've heard even form my own instructor is how rough the life is. I began here at IC as a 4 1/2, which is the performance and education double major. I soon decided that teaching was not what I wanted to do, and I thought it wrong to just get the degree, so I'm now straight performance. Sure, my dream would be to become one of those big namers who make the big money playin in the big orchestra. I also know how unlikely that is. I realize now that I'll be happy doing anything that is related to music, and if I'm getting payed to play, hey even better.
I don't believe that many of the performance majors out there actually believe that they are going to get the big job when they graduate, most of us do realize how rarely that happens. Sure, we'll make it a point to practice our asses off and show up at the auditions, but I would hope that we're smart enough to have day jobs when the true prodigies and amazing players send their tapes in.
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No honest, reputable institution can promise that you will have a job when you graduate. And that includes the service academies.

Consider the number of jobs in what you are studying. You'd think with the number of us tubists there'd be lots of jobs for us.

And then consider those of us with professional musician qualifications who don't have the professional musician jobs.

The dean of the music school of the seminary where I earned my master's degree in tuba said that when he earned his doctoral degree at the University of Southern California they required all the music majors to have a non-relative minor, so they did the same thing at the seminary.

Do you know I have used my non-relative minor to get more jobs than I have the music degree?

Something to consider.
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