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I saw this advertised in Grammaphone and ordered it from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Wagner-Orchestral ... im/tubenet

Klaus Tennstedt with the London Philharmonic. Playing Wagner Overtures, and some pieces from The Ring. The tuba playing on this DVD will blow your mind. Owen Slade, is UNREAL. I also think I saw Dick Tyack from Covent Garden playing contrabass trombone on the Ring selections, and this is jaw dropping as well. Slade uses his Besson 981 throughout. There is never a doubt of his prescence in the orchestral texture. Plus, its hard to go wrong with Klaus Tennstedt doing Wagner!
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Bob1062 wrote:
ZNC dandy wrote:I also think I saw Dick Tyack from Covent Garden playing contrabass trombone on the Ring selections, and this is jaw dropping as well.


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If you haven't seen this horn online before, you're missing out. It's a custom double slide Thein Eb with a Bb valve and a slide to put the valve into Ab (for low E). Wicked cool! Conn also made a few Eb contras like this (not sure how many, but I have seen a picture of one and my friend played one with a Minick valve, was it Floyd Cooley's? That may be completely wrong, but it's sticking in my head for some reason). It's like a grown up quadro-bone!
I assume the slide is alto length and has 7 positions (8 would have been even cooler!) on the Thein, but the Conns may have had a longer slide. :?:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=OJqc_Z_0G0E
Is this on the above DVD?
I am familiar with his Thein contra. And yes, that is on the DVD. Owen Slade is from another planet. What an ENORMOUS sound!
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ZNC Dandy wrote:Owen Slade is from another planet. What an ENORMOUS sound!
I regularly heard Owen Slade live at the Royal Festival Hall in London in the 1990's and the sound he produced from a Besson 981 was the best ever promotion for using an EEb in orchestra. One particular performance of Prokofiev Alexander Nevsky particularly comes to mine, where I cannot image a 6/4 CC sounding better - and that using only a Bach 24AW mouthpiece. :shock: :lol:

A good illustration that the most important component in the sound is the tuba player and a mega tuba is not essential to make a mega sound.
Scooby Tuba wrote:Owen Slade...with PT6P.

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In more recent years (since leaving the LPO), I believe Owen has been persuaded to use a PT6P - but still plays Besson 981 predominantly.

Jonathan "who has found Owen Slade's playing an inspiration"
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I picked up a copy of this DVD in Germany last weekend and what a wonderful recording. The tuba playing is absolutely phenomenal.

Thanks for the recommendation.
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tuboid wrote:..were played on his Besson 981 before it was written off !
Does that mean some unfortunate accident befell his 981? :shock:

I think this Bruckner 5 is my personal favorite recording to hear Owen's incredible sound on the 981 http://www.amazon.com/Symphony-No-5-Bru ... B000083GOS
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Stuart Roebuck formerly of the Halle Orchestra used a 5 valve Barlow F in a 3+2 configuration. He was an absolute monster of a player!
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Bob1062 wrote:Are there any tuba players in England who play a 5 valve (not a comp Besson/B&H/...)?
Well, I know of a couple of UK amateurs who just play 5 valve non-comp tubas (CC, rather than Eb), but would be interested myself if there are yet any such professionals.

BTW I am often disappointed when I go to professional concerts by UK orchestras to see the tubist come on stage with their Besson EEb when I know they have a CC and the work being performed would (in my opinion) be ideal for the larger tuba (e.g. Tchaikovsky)
Bob1062 wrote:I remember reading that the 2040/5 was selling well in England
No doubt 99% of tubas sold in the UK are still 3+1 compensators

FWIW: Personally, although the 2040/5 is a great Eb in my opinion, its F tuba like qualities of tone means that realistically I feel it needs to be used in harness with a CC, unless the tubist only plays in small ensembles.
Bob1062 wrote:Besides Jonathan of course! :D
I like to be different! :lol:

Jonathan
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