Yup. The standard tuba in the Vienna Phil for a long, long time. Jacobs played one by Dehmal for a while in response to a request from Reiner, after the Maestro had guest-conducted in Vienna.cjk wrote:It's an F tuba with the Vienna 3+3 valve system.
There have definitely been vienna-layout horns made since 1920, and before the early 1980s. Played two of them at Alexander five years or so ago.Rick Denney wrote:The six-valve configuration was an 1870's innovation on the original 1836 Uhlmann five-valve F (which itself was a rotary-valve version of the Moritz five-valve F with Berlinerpumpen). According to Bevan, they were no longer made after the 20's, but were revived with a new design by Musica in the early 80's. This instrument would seem to refute that belief--it is certainly not a Musica--though it may have been made more recently than that.cjk wrote:It's an F tuba with the Vienna 3+3 valve system.
Rick Denney wrote:Yup. The standard tuba in the Vienna Phil for a long, long time. Jacobs played one by Dehmal for a while in response to a request from Reiner, after the Maestro had guest-conducted in Vienna.cjk wrote:It's an F tuba with the Vienna 3+3 valve system.
The six-valve configuration was an 1870's innovation on the original 1836 Uhlmann five-valve F (which itself was a rotary-valve version of the Moritz five-valve F with Berlinerpumpen). According to Bevan, they were no longer made after the 20's, but were revived with a new design by Musica in the early 80's. This instrument would seem to refute that belief--it is certainly not a Musica--though it may have been made more recently than that.
Rick "Bevan is your friend" Denney
Absolutely right. Not sure what make it is, but I'm sure he likes it and sounds great on it.Lee Stofer wrote:In the U.S., we get very much locked-into a mindset of only certain models, because no manufacturer in the U.S. has custom-built tubas in a long time. This is not the case in Europe, however. I know from experience that Rudolf Meinl will build you anything you want, as long as you're prepared to pay for it, and I think that is typical of most German/Czech instrument makers.
It certainty sounds great on the DVD!jonesbrass wrote:I'm sure he likes it and sounds great on it.
Apparently, these things were originally played by the horn players of the WP.windshieldbug wrote:From Phil's "Old and Odd" Brass Musical Instrument Gallery
"the upper three valves, on the left side of the instrument are "1 - 2 - 3" as commonly found on most tubas. On the lower right, the third (sixth) valve is 2 1/2 tones, effectively a "fourth valve". The fifth valve is a compensated half-tone, relative to the sixth. ... The first / fourth valve on the right is the same as the regular third valve, one and a half tones."
The normal 1-2-3 valves are in the left hand (for bass player doubles?) but the right hand can be any number of combinations. The 4th valve (counting down from the top) is often a perfect fourth, the 5th valve on my Scherzer was a sharp half step and the 6th valve was a sharp two whole steps. Fingerings were a nightmare and the low register is an acquired taste, at best.Neptune wrote:...
Assuming it is a Vienna F, does anyone know what each valve does? I kind of remember reading somewhere that the left hand equates to the normal 1+2+3 (which I suppose would be good for a previous horn player)?
The picture is a screen print from the DVD which I have just watched again. The further view below indicates he is not using a strap and I really cannot see how he is holding it up! In the DVD he is even swaying to music with the tuba.MaryAnn wrote:I'm trying to figure out how he's holding it up; it looks too high to be sitting on a chair or in his lap, and I can't see a harness. Only thing I can see that could be doing any holding at all is his right pinky, which would explain the expression on his face. Is there more to the picture?
