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editions/versions of Bach Cello Suites

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I am wondering if there are any particular versions of the Bach Cello Suites that you have had a positive experience working from. I play euphonium, and have preferred in the past to work off of actual cello parts. The first edition I bought is published by International...I don't remember who edited it but it has an orange cover and features the edited print on the left pages and facsimiles of the Bach manuscript on the right. The problem with this is edition is that there is a page turn in the middle of some movements, plus the music gets cut off in a few places.

I have also worked a little with the Pierre Fournier edition from International, but have found some of the musical elements to be changed. I'm not sure which editions are most endorsed by cellists, but would like to find out so that I can use those versions and adapt them to the euphonium, rather than making a bunch of ignorant revisions.

What do you use/like?
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I have found the original cello versions to be troublesome to work from mainly because of the double and triple stops, as well as bowing direction markings.
Doug Yeo has some 'edited for bass trombone' movements available on his website. I find these to work well for F tuba.
It seems to me there are one or two tuba arrangements of the entire cello suites to be found in the Robert King catalog.
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Just to briefly reiterate:

I am looking for editions that have not been edited for brass so that I might use the cello markings to my advantage (and I do plan to make use of some double stops)
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Try the Vandersall Edition - just the notes & nothing but the notes. Each suite sold separately, or at least that is the way they were sold 20 years ago when I got my set.

My copy says Joseph Boonin Inc. Sole selling agent. 831 Main St, Hackensack, NJ 07601
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using the Edition Peters version for over 30 years and most cellists consider it to be the best. It is easy to read and allows you to develop your "own" ideas as to what should be there.

That would be my recommendation.

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Phil,

The edition that Dr. Bowman uses/likes is the published by International, and it is the Hugo Becker edition. I've played from it and liked it a lot.

Hope this helps!

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I like the editions Doug Yeo has done; they can be found for free at:
http://www.yeodoug.com/publications/pdf/pdf.html
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Roger Lewis wrote:using the Edition Peters version for over 30 years and most cellists consider it to be the best. It is easy to read and allows you to develop your "own" ideas as to what should be there.

That would be my recommendation.

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I agree with Roger. There are not a lot of markings of any kind. Just the notes, including multiple stops, and articulations. At least there weren't any when I bought my copy in 1964. I'm afraid it's all marked up now. Plus it's falling apart. It still lives on my practice stand such as it is. When I want the cellists ideas I listen to their recordings.
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Peters for me, too. I wanted all the notes to work with, and went for 'cello music for the same reasons.
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