Schiller euphoniums?

[scottw]

Does anyone know if these are generally worth buying? A friend wants to buy an inexpensive [under $500] euph for his young nephew and was asking me if I knew much about these shiny ILO's. Any information will be much appreciated.

[ParLawGod]

Those are instruments sold by Jim Laabs Music (out of my home state of Wisconsin). To put it mildly, Jim Laabs does not have a good reputation (IMO). If you do a search for "Jim Laabs Music" you will find a lot of information about rip-offs, poor playing instruments, customer service problems, etc. I believe there was also a thread a while back regarding this (you might want to do a search here also).

Before the "Schiller" brand the store carried "Milwaukee" brand instruments (cheap stencil horns). I went in there a few years back when I was looking to play test some new horns...the person in the store handed me a "Milwaukee" instrument and told me it was a "professional instrument" and "many pros play them" and so on (I forget some of the exact phrasing, but you get the point). Needless to say I knew better. The horn played okay at best. Schiller may be the same stencil horns with a new name on them...but I have no evidence or proof to back that up, just a hunch.

I have never played Schiller euphoniums, so I do not have much to say about the horn...but my opinion is to stay away from Jim Laabs Music.

[edit] A search on The Trombone Forum (http://www.tromboneforum.org" target="_blank) also brings up additional topics. [/edit]

[pgym]

There are two threads on the Tuba-Euph forum hosted on Dave Werden's website discussing the Schiller compensating euph. From the comments there, they appear to be very good horns for the money.

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