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King still had a double bell euph in its catalogue, when I was in my teens (and I had that catalogue back then). I wouldn’t have been able to afford it then, and even if I have put some money in my collection, I have not yet come by a double bell euphonium, where there was a sane relationship between the playing potentials and the price asked or the amount paid in auctions by some people with too much money available.

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People buy things for different reasons.

Of course, *your* reasons are always more logical than *their* reasons...
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Be that as it may, you can see & hear some great Triple Double Bell action here. Cell Block 7 Jazz Band has been ripping up the stages of jazz festivals all over the place and the "Triple-Double" is the most popular part of their act.
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David Richoux wrote:Be that as it may, you can see & hear some great Triple Double Bell action here. Cell Block 7 Jazz Band has been ripping up the stages of jazz festivals all over the place and the "Triple-Double" is the most popular part of their act.

Saw now double bell action via the link, but noticed the clarinet player, Pete Main, who has the same preferred position that I have, sitting. More important: is Pete the guy who in another band solos on sarrussophone?

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I bought my (1926 Holton 5v) double bell euphonium almost 7 years ago and, even thought I still haven't got around to fixing it up (it's currently the ugliest and most worn out euph in my collection) I tend to use it the most. Partly because I'm not much of a slide trombone player and I hate holding a valve trombone. I know it doesn't really sound like a tbone but I'd rather take 1 horn than 2. The bands I play it in have attendance problems so I'm never quite sure if I'll be playing euph or tbone parts (or both). Not only do I consider it to be one of my favorite horns AND my most useful/used but I could see myself buying another. Something a little larger might be nice for pieces with a lot of euphonium solos or bass bone parts.

I noticed this while browsing: http://cgi.ebay.com/CONN-DOUBLE-BELL-EU ... 1|294%3A50" target="_blank" target="_blank It's only the starting bid but for a 104 year old instrument (make that 2 instruments) that has been completely overhauled I think it's an OK deal. Collectors pay a pretty penny for a 100+ year old euph or trombone. Getting them BOTH overhauled is a serious expense. Also, this horn is close to one of the first ever made!
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Here's a matched pair. Bill Bell would be doubly proud.
Sorry about the photo's exposure.
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Mike-ICR wrote:Partly because I'm not much of a slide trombone player and I hate holding a valve trombone. I know it doesn't really sound like a tbone but I'd rather take 1 horn than 2. The bands I play it in have attendance problems so I'm never quite sure if I'll be playing euph or tbone parts (or both).
That was exactly why they were made in the first place. When live music was still at a premium, and the local town band was what there was outside of a piano.

I worked up a little Carnival of Venice action with mine, the last variation that is supposed to sound like two horns REALLY sounds like two horns when You use both bells...

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imperialbari wrote:
David Richoux wrote:Be that as it may, you can see & hear some great Triple Double Bell action here. Cell Block 7 Jazz Band has been ripping up the stages of jazz festivals all over the place and the "Triple-Double" is the most popular part of their act.

Saw now double bell action via the link, but noticed the clarinet player, Pete Main, who has the same preferred position that I have, sitting. More important: is Pete the guy who in another band solos on sarrussophone?

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windshieldbug wrote:
Mike-ICR wrote:Partly because I'm not much of a slide trombone player and I hate holding a valve trombone. I know it doesn't really sound like a tbone but I'd rather take 1 horn than 2. The bands I play it in have attendance problems so I'm never quite sure if I'll be playing euph or tbone parts (or both).
That was exactly why they were made in the first place. When live music was still at a premium, and the local town band was what there was outside of a piano.
I stumbled on that fact back in college when I was shopping for a better euphonium (compared to a YEP321... I found an 1871 J. Grass 5v that fit the bill). I also needed a reasonably good valve trombone. I eventually started finding double bell euphoniums. When I found out what they were, how they worked and why they were made I figured it was meant to be.
windshieldbug wrote:I worked up a little Carnival of Venice action with mine, the last variation that is supposed to sound like two horns REALLY sounds like two horns when You use both bells...
I did the exact same thing! It's a real crowd pleaser. Many of the other Arban solos work well too.
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For years, I joked with my wife whenever we went to our local flea market that all I was looking for was a double bell euphonium. One day (on eBay, actually) I found a good looking Conn 5-valve model. Played it only a few times. Found it stuffy and not too well in tune. After several years of displaying it on the top of the hutch in my office, I sold it in favor of an actually useful instrument.
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Great link to Cell Block 7 (Thanks!), but I didn't catch any double-bell action. Is there another link?
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sailn2ba wrote:Great link to Cell Block 7 (Thanks!), but I didn't catch any double-bell action. Is there another link?
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