Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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Hello all,
Has anyone played both the Willson Eb and F tubas? How do they compare to each other? Also how much of a difference is there in the two's leadpipe angles? I have spent time on the Eb but haven't had the chance to honk the F. Do the two play alike or are they different beasts?

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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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I haven't played the big F in a while, but BOTH the 3400 and the small F rock! I don't remember ergonomics on the small F (though I didn't like the virtually inaccessible 4th slide), but on the 3400 all I would need to do to make it perfect would be to remove the thumb ring and angle the receiver slightly.

I suppose you could choose one over the other based upon "what kind of playing you do", but you will certainly enjoy either!
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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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bububassboner wrote:Hello all,
Has anyone played both the Willson Eb and F tubas? How do they compare to each other? Also how much of a difference is there in the two's leadpipe angles? I have spent time on the Eb but haven't had the chance to honk the F. Do the two play alike or are they different beasts?

Thanks in advance :tuba:
There is a new smaller Eb being presented in Frankfurt.
Check that one out too, might be worth waiting.

http://www.willson.ch/news/news-foto/star.pdf

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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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oedipoes wrote:There is a new smaller Eb being presented in Frankfurt.
Check that one out too, might be worth waiting.
Other than the lousy 5th slide setup (what if I'm playing in A or such and want to tune the 5th for 523?), I'm digging it!
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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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bububassboner wrote:Hello all,
Has anyone played both the Willson Eb and F tubas? How do they compare to each other? Also how much of a difference is there in the two's leadpipe angles? I have spent time on the Eb but haven't had the chance to honk the F. Do the two play alike or are they different beasts?

Thanks in advance :tuba:
Yes, I've played them both, if you're talking about the 3400 Eb and the 3200 F. The F models have changed now (3200XL and 3200XS), and they've added a small Eb, as Wim said. As far as the original 3400 and 3200 compare, they are both really great horns. Immaculately constructed, they play superbly. I did not notice any difference in the leadpipe angles. What I did notice, however, was that the 3400 Eb did tend to "whiz" all over itself and me when I turned the bell downward, which the 3200 F did not do. Perhaps the difference is that the F is housebroken? :shock: :lol:
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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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Very (very) good new Eb "small" tuba !!!
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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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If anyone should care, here are some specs on the new small Willson Eb:

Bore sizes:
1.-3. valves                18.0 mm
4. valve                      19.0 mm
5. valve ROTAX           19.5 mm
 
Height                         820 mm
Diameter bell              425 mm

Would like to try one, expect it's nice and punchy...
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Re: Willson Eb vs. Willson F

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They are very similar to each other. I haven't tried the new models of the F tuba, so I don't know how much was changed. A few years ago I got to try out several of the Willson tubas at the factory. Both the F and the E flat played very well. There wasn't much difference in the size of the instruments that I could tell. I did notice a difference in the leadpipe. One of them stuck out further than the other, but I don't remember which was which now. The F seemed a little bit easier to blow to me. The e flat seemed to have a little bit deeper sound. I was amazed at how well all the tubas played that I tried. I bought the 3200 F with pistons soon after that and have been enjoying it ever since.
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