The English Tuba

[Rick Denney]

On the general subject of the morals of copying music or recordings no longer in print (as opposed to the morals of violating the law per se, which has already been covered):

What the unauthorized copying does is depress demand for legitimate copies, which in turn reduces or eliminates any motivation the copyright holder might have to go to the expense of reissuing it. Mr. Dowling may need, say, 100 people to buy the CD before he covers his costs in having a batch produced. If 75 of those people (or even 5 of those people) have copies, they won't be motivated to buy a legitimate copy when it becomes available. All Mr. Dowling has to do is assume that this is the case and he may decide not to reissue it. He is deprived of his legitimate market, and we are deprived of legitimate copies.

That's why it's wrong. And that's also why it's illegal.

("We" means "you guys"--I own a legit copy of this CD, and would hate to see it lost forever because of infringement.)

I'm not accusing anyone of anything--too little information to know anyone's intentions here. All I'm doing is explaining my response to the moral question that was posed.

Rick "wondering what has been lost because of the copy culture" Denney

[cjk]

I've always found it terribly ironic that many musicians have no problem pirating music (whether it's printed or recorded) while that very practice deprives income from someone just like themselves.

[J.c. Sherman]

What the unauthorized copying does is depress demand for legitimate copies, which in turn reduces or eliminates any motivation the copyright holder might have to go to the expense of reissuing it. Mr. Dowling may need, say, 100 people to buy the CD before he covers his costs in having a batch produced. If 75 of those people (or even 5 of those people) have copies, they won't be motivated to buy a legitimate copy when it becomes available. All Mr. Dowling has to do is assume that this is the case and he may decide not to reissue it. He is deprived of his legitimate market, and we are deprived of legitimate copies.

That's why it's wrong. And that's also why it's illegal.

("We" means "you guys"--I own a legit copy of this CD, and would hate to see it lost forever because of infringement.)

I'm not accusing anyone of anything--too little information to know anyone's intentions here. All I'm doing is explaining my response to the moral question that was posed.

Rick "wondering what has been lost because of the copy culture" Denney

Here here... And I too own and love this recording - how often do you get to hear the little C French Tuba?

J.c.

[bill]

Rick Denny Wrote:

On the general subject of the morals of copying music or recordings no longer in print (as opposed to the morals of violating the law per se, which has already been covered):

What the unauthorized copying does is depress demand for legitimate copies, which in turn reduces or eliminates any motivation the copyright holder might have to go to the expense of reissuing it. Mr. Dowling may need, say, 100 people to buy the CD before he covers his costs in having a batch produced. If 75 of those people (or even 5 of those people) have copies, they won't be motivated to buy a legitimate copy when it becomes available. All Mr. Dowling has to do is assume that this is the case and he may decide not to reissue it. He is deprived of his legitimate market, and we are deprived of legitimate copies.

That's why it's wrong. And that's also why it's illegal.

("We" means "you guys"--I own a legit copy of this CD, and would hate to see it lost forever because of infringement.)

I'm not accusing anyone of anything--too little information to know anyone's intentions here. All I'm doing is explaining my response to the moral question that was posed.

Rick "wondering what has been lost because of the copy culture" Denney

So, there is no rational for copying this CD, is there? Let's review: it is available, now, for purchase and it would be a violation of international copyright law to copy it. What more is there to be said? I wonder if Gene could be inveigled to offer it for sale here? on the For Sale section? Seems like a natural.

[iiipopes]

I would like a copy myself. And since I've also been one to try to sell CD's of the band I was playing in at the time at various times over the years, I wholeheartedly agree with Rick.

Reissuing it and putting an ad in the "for sale" section of this forum is a great idea.

[Kory101]

Im heading back to Victoria in a week and I will mention the idea to Gene and keep you all updated!

[Chadtuba]

To bring up an old subject, I find this recording available through digital form through Amazon and Itunes but I have yet to find a hard recording available. Short of emailing Mr. Dowling, does anybody know of a place to purchase a CD? I have no problem doing the digital download, and do so on a regular basis, but this is one that I would really prefer to have a hard recording of if possible.

As before, thank you for your help

[Kory101]

If anyone would like a copy, Gene has a ton of his CD's re-released sitting in a box in his office and I'm sure if you sent him a quick email, he'd be more than glad to help you out.

His email address is: edowling@uvic.ca" target="_blank


Cheers
Kory

[Chadtuba]

If anyone would like a copy, Gene has a ton of his CD's re-released sitting in a box in his office and I'm sure if you sent him a quick email, he'd be more than glad to help you out.

His email address is: edowling@uvic.ca" target="_blank" target="_blank


Cheers
Kory

Thanks Kory, I just shot off an email to Mr. Dowling.

[Kory101]

No worries!

Let me know how it all works out!

[Mark]

If anyone would like a copy, Gene has a ton of his CD's re-released sitting in a box in his office and I'm sure if you sent him a quick email, he'd be more than glad to help you out.

His email address is: edowling@uvic.ca" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

And I'm sure he would be glad to autograph it for you.

[katietes]

If anyone would like a copy, Gene has a ton of his CD's re-released sitting in a box in his office and I'm sure if you sent him a quick email, he'd be more than glad to help you out.

His email address is: edowling@uvic.ca" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

And I'm sure he would be glad to autograph it for you.

He autographed mine!

[Kory101]

If anyone would like a copy, Gene has a ton of his CD's re-released sitting in a box in his office and I'm sure if you sent him a quick email, he'd be more than glad to help you out.

His email address is: edowling@uvic.ca" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

And I'm sure he would be glad to autograph it for you.

He autographed mine!

Classy Gene.