"new style" Conn 20K lower mouthpipe bracing system

[imperialbari]

It apparently has a "satan finish".

Does that make it a hell-icon?

[TUbajohn20J]

I wouldn't buy this horn. It apparently has a "satan finish". While I'm not exactly sure what that entails, I'm pretty sure I don't want it.

A SATIN finish horn means it was either sand blasted or bead blasted to get the rough looking finish, and then silver plated or laquered. This is my favorite kind of finish on horns because first of all, it just looks good, and is very easy to take care of...in my opinion. This finish was popular on older horns but some makers still offer it.

[Bandmaster]

I have a question for you repair gurus... when replacing the 20K leadpipe crook (the receiver that bends around the tuning slide and goes into the 1st valve casing), do you have to trim the new factory replacement crook to the proper length or does it come the correct length from the supplier? The youth band I teach has two 20K where someone replaced these crooks and the gooseneck and bits no longer line up properly, to far away from your mouth, and the horns both play a little flat. After looking the two 20Ks that they own that still have the original crooks, I was thinking if these crooks were shortened it would solve both problems. What do you think?

[SousaSaver]

The angle the mouth pipe is installed could be an issue. Are the students using 2 bits with the neck?