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Mark wrote:
LJV wrote:I'm sure those "private donations" come from disinterested parties, too.
I can think of a few people who have made significant donations to orchestras and the only time they attended an orchestrta concert was the one given to honor them for their donation.

I realize the world is not perfect. But, in a perfect world, orchestras would be self-sufficient through ticket sales.
Try roughing out a budget. Write down ballpark salaries and other expenses. Now, write down ballpark ticket prices, number of performances, and reasonable total attendance. Do they balance?

If not, how do you fix it? One was is to widen the gap between the cheapest ticket in the house and the most expensive ticket. The cheap seats boost the number of butts in the seats - the expensive seats boost the amount of $$ you collect. Finding the right balance is the tricky part.

Find ways to charge OUTRAGEOUS prices for the most desirable seats. If you do it right, you can charge $1million per ticket (for a very few, very rich patrons). Perhaps you could spring for a few drinks, or a private meeting with the principal Tuba player, as an extra incentive (the benefit of selling just ONE more of these $million tickets is very high!)

I know of one orchestra that seems to be doing this right - but then they rose up from the ashes of a bankrupt predecessor. In my opinion, the key to their success was that they refused to "come back" until there was a sound financial plan in place. So far (cross your fingers) it's working. Part of it is outreach; part of it is more programs (for more audiences, with varying musical tastes) - but most of it is hard nosed economics. And, some of it is care and feeding of those who are willing to contribute.

Perhaps it will be necessary to destroy Detroit, in order to save it.
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Not to disagree, but the parameters are wrong. I think any uninvited guest in the special donor’s room would be unwelcome, just as the donor would be unwelcome wandering through the orchestra during a performance or even participating in a performance. Many wealthy people understand and appreciate the skill involved in our art, that’s one of the reasons they continue to donate money.

Saying that orchestra musicians are glorified servants is too sweeping a statement for me to accept and none of the major orchestra members I know have ever hinted at that. As a rule, they appreciate the donors and feel appreciated in turn. Speaking about the management of orchestras is a different matter.

The wealthy who contribute are as different in personality as the musicians who play in orchestras and I have never envied them in terms of our art form. The reason I don’t envy them is that
they are on the wrong side of the stage
and there’s nothing they can do about it. :lol:
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Alex C wrote: they are on the wrong side of the stage
and there’s nothing they can do about it. :lol:
There are many stages.
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sloan wrote:
Alex C wrote: they are on the wrong side of the stage
and there’s nothing they can do about it. :lol:
There are many stages.
I was referring to the stage on which music is performed. Hope it's clear now.
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I don't know if this has been brought up in this topic yet, but here's a summary of the final offer in last week's negotiations (found on the DSO's website). Granted, this appears to have been written by people on the administrative side of the negotiations, but it seems to be kosher.

http://www.detroitsymphony.com/upload_f ... 021511.pdf
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Looks like things were worked out. First concert was today.
http://dso.org/page.aspx?page_id=703" target="_blank
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