Nielsen - Symphony No. 4

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Which instrument would you use on the tuba part for Nielsen's Symphony No. 4

Bass Tuba
10
32%
Small Contrabass Tuba
7
23%
Large Contrabass Tuba
14
45%
 
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imperialbari wrote:...That concert was in 73 or 74 with Celibidache conducting...
It must have been a very nice concert with Celibidache. So you have studied with Ole E. I met him a couple of times back then. A great player and a very special person. You must have learnt a lot from him. And yes now I remember that Carsten did play with the opera and then with the RSO. Many great musicians back then, and now in Copenhagen.

Hehe, seems to be popular with red instruments. I have a red Bach trombone that I use with our orchestra from time to time. Looks nice when we play for the television. :)

Anyone out there with a red tuba?!

Back to Nielsen. I remember at the first scandinavian brass symposium I had the pleasure to do some section playing with three nice Danish guys on the 4th with Harvey Phillips as instructor. For me as a young man that had just begun to study at the Royal Academy it was such a great experience. This symphony has a special place in my heart ever since. The other music by Nielsen is also fantastic but the 4th is something extra.
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Ole Engler was immensely talented as a musician having been very strong on the piano already before he started on trombone at the age of 16. Whether he was a great trombone teacher? Anyway he had a sad fate.

Sad to say so, but the brass star of that Celibidache concert was the first trumpet Ole Andersen with brilliant support of his section. Second trumpet in Gaspar la Nuit and Pictures was Kurt Petersen, whose brother was solo trombone in one of the Stockholm orchestras (with a slightly modified family name).

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Lingon wrote:Anyone out there with a red tuba?!
The guy at the end of this clip does. It might not work for the purpose you have in mind, though.
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Todd S. Malicoate wrote:
Lingon wrote:Anyone out there with a red tuba?!
The guy at the end of this clip does. It might not work for the purpose you have in mind, though.
No "kidding"! (seems effective, though, in its own way) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Todd S. Malicoate wrote:
Lingon wrote:Anyone out there with a red tuba?!
...The guy at the end of this clip does....
Hehehe, not really. It is not the right nuance of red. :)
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imperialbari wrote:...Sad to say so, but the brass star of that Celibidache concert was the first trumpet Ole Andersen...
...Second trumpet in Gaspar la Nuit and Pictures was Kurt Petersen whose brother was solo trombone in one of the Stockholm orchestras...
Hmm, why do you say sad about Ole A as 1st in Pictures? About Ole I remember him subbing on 1st trumpet in the Swedish RSO back before 1979 some time. I do not remember the repertoire but it was something large, maybe Mahler or Bruckner. As far as I know that was the only time he played with the orchestra, but his playing lifted not only the brass section but the whole orchestra to a niveau that I had never heard before. It was like magic. Then after the concert a couple of us had some beers and 'en lille en' in the bar and talked with Ole. It was a great time. :)
Kurt P's brother John here in Stockholm did retire from his orchestra about tvelve years ago. He sold all his instruments and quit playing totally. Now at the age of about 80 to our he has started playing again, and he think it is funnier than ever. :)
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Sad only because this forum is for low brasses. Ole Andersen was an amazing player, but not too educated in languages. Once Celibidache asked the RSO chairman, the then piccolo, to translate to OA, that Celibidache considered him one of the very best orchestral lead trumpets in Europe. Ole said: Very good, but will he loan me 50 kroner for beer?

50 years ago talented recruits were drafted to fill in some 3rd spots in our otherwise professional military bands. Ole A was in a band north of Copenhagen together with a friend of mine. Arne Christensen, who was considered the nice guy, while Ole was kind of a maverick. The drafted guys were obliged to live in the barracks and to take turns playing reveille and retraite to mark the flag coming up and down. Ole often bullied Arne to take his turns, but one day Arne refused, and Ole didn't play the reveille. Half an hour later an ordonnance summoned Ole to the colonels office. No reveille and you were on? Defect instrument, sir! Show me! Ole went to the depot, took the bugle, and hit the leadpipe hard against the edge of table. Back to the office. No air will come through it, sir! Ole avoided the Swedish curtains.

John P was a student of the then opera lead, Palmer Traulsen. One day John and Palmer’s daughter had to tell Palmer and his wife, that the daughter was pregnant. Palmer took the practical attitude: If you are gonna marry my daughter, then you better play the trombone so well that you can make a living for her. Daily lessons at my house every morning! And as we know John made the solo spot in Stockholm.

Early 1975 a car derailed the express train from Stockholm to Copenhagen. Oddly enough only 3 were killed, but two of them were Palmer Traulsen and his wife returning from visiting the Stockholm family.

There is a funny little photo taken at the Copenhagen conservatory after a clinic by Dennis Wick on September 23rd 1973. Dennis Wick and Palmer Traulsen in the foreground. Between them the late Herbert Møller, who introduced brass bands in Denmark. Back right a very skinny me.
Denis Wick Herbert Møller Palmer Traulsen KB September 1973.jpg
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UncleBeer wrote:Big-*** Eb. :D
I'll take 8!! :D (not so subtle Futurama reference....)
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bloke wrote:' a rarely-played symphony, but radio announcers love to say it's name over the air...

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Very much so...almost as much as the overly pretentious ones like to say "Bachhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"... :lol:
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