which is the fastest?

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:12 pm

Pistons all the way!

bigboom · Post by **bigboom** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:00 pm

I have't played too many rotary valved tubas so I might not have a very wide base on them but I think it all depends upon the lubrication, springs, fit, and mostly the player. I recently replaced the springs in my piston valves with some stronger ones and now my valves are faster than most of the trumpet's valves in my band. The rotary valves I have played had a much shorter move than any tuba piston but I didn't really think they were any faster, just less movement for the fingers.

Ben

Anterux · Post by **Anterux** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:05 pm

Piston valves and rotary valves are different. they feel different.
In theory, rotary should be faster then Piston. but just a tiny little bit faster.
If I like more the feeling of pistons (and I do) I should be faster in pistons (and I think I am).

Someone very wisely, said earier in this forum:

Valves good, holes bad.

Davidrn1 · Post by **Davidrn1** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:20 pm

I prefer pistons. get much better articulation with them. Not so "thumpy" of a tone.

Pistons seem much faster to me. Conn short action are the quickest I have played I think.

Davidrn1 · Post by **Davidrn1** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:57 am

PISTON DISTON MOISTON BANANAFANA FO FISTION FEE FI FO RISTON.............PISTON!

Couldn't resist the urge.

David "Feelling as if I need to go swing from a tree tire" Zychowski

SEE WHAT YOU DID RICK! I couldn't resist doing that either.

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:13 pm

mandrake wrote:
Davidrn1 wrote:I prefer pistons. get much better articulation with them. Not so "thumpy" of a tone. Pistons seem much faster to me.
I feel the same way about rotor valves. I think that after all of these responses, we can agree that my original answer of "bananas" is correct.

Indeed, I can find no flaw in your reasoning ... eminently logical ...

Anterux wrote:Piston valves and rotary valves are different. they feel different.
In theory, rotary should be faster then Piston. but just a tiny little bit faster.
If I like more the feeling of pistons (and I do) I should be faster in pistons (and I think I am).

Someone very wisely, said earier in this forum:

Valves good, holes bad.

I'm not convinced about the "holes bad" part. If you're really looking for speed, I suspect that keys (ophicleide) would be faster than either pistons or rotors, and open holes (serpent) would be faster yet ...

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:15 pm

Davidrn1 wrote:SEE WHAT YOU DID RICK! I couldn't resist doing that either.

What in the world are you talking about?

Rick "bananas go here" Denney

Davidrn1 · Post by **Davidrn1** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:32 pm

The quote between my names. That's all.

No blame Rick. Just having some fun.

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:12 pm

Davidrn1 wrote:The quote between my names.

Beware, it's addictive, and then you have to live up to it.

Rick "whose quotient for witty internyms is far below a reasonable standard" Denney

jaredsan · Post by **jaredsan** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:31 am

Ive always liked rotors. The problem with valves is if you don't depress them completely they give you a wimpy sound. With rotors, the "throw?" is shorter so there is less chance of the occasional burp in sound.

tubafour · Post by **tubafour** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:54 am

Hey, mandrake, now there's another one. "Roters." I think everyone who spells it differently than you is correct.

Josh "Rotars, Roters, or Roturs, it all translates the same" Stanley

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:59 am

I don't worry much about how fast my valves (pistons OR rotors) are as I usually find that my chops set my limits!