Sibelius

[Dan Schultz]

Don't know if this belongs in this category or not. But... It belongs somewhere!

http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/ ... ights.html

I use Finale. This sort of reminds me of a few years back when I chased the computer-aided-design software to try to figure out who would eventually win out.

[BVD Press]

I have followed this very closely on many forums, etc. I think it as anticipated from day one (or at least I thought it all along). It will make people angry, but from a business angle it makes sense. At least to the investors...

And then there is Finale:

http://www.makemusic.com/Pressroom/Default.aspx?pid=555

[sloan]

I'm going to make a brave prediction: after Sibelius 8 is released, a new team will be formed to continue development. check back in 2015 or so...

[daytontuba]

I use MuseScore - you can't beat the price, and have done full concert band scores with it, and as it is open source code, it is likely to be around for a long time.

[MartyNeilan]

I have always been a Finale person, but I am sorry to hear that. Competition usually makes everyone better in the end.
I hear some guy named Gloves (or something like that) has done the same thing to plenty of other companies.

[Dan Schultz]

Whatever happens here.... I sincerely hope that someone comes up with a cross-platform system better than .xml.

[StanOsborne]

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Myriad Team
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Melody Assistant
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Harmony Assistant
http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm

Wikipedia's list of score writers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scorewriters

[BVD Press]

Sloan: I think you are assuming Sibelius 8. Might happen, but might not. We all though Finale would have 2013, but alas it is 2012b which is really just a money grab as it is essentially the same as 2012.

Tubatinker: I am not sure I understand the XML issue? I use it almost everyday and have very few issues. When they do come up, I email Micahel the SIbelius and Finale describe what didn't transfer over and usually he quickly releases an update. I feel like it is MIDI on Steroids.

Back to work,Bryan

[Dan Schultz]

Tubatinker: I am not sure I understand the XML issue? I use it almost everyday and have very few issues. When they do come up, I email Micahel the SIbelius and Finale describe what didn't transfer over and usually he quickly releases an update. I feel like it is MIDI on Steroids....

I have had no success with XML... Most likely mostly due to the fact that I am just a novice Finale user and just haven't taken the time to learn all the 'ins & outs'. I just recall the days from CAD programs that NEVER seemed to cross platforms seamlessly.

Besides... I would think it to be in the best interest of software developers to make their stuff as user-friendly and flexible as possible. There shouldn't be a need for third-party software for interchange of files.

[derrenba]

I have had no success with XML... Most likely mostly due to the fact that I am just a novice Finale user and just haven't taken the time to learn all the 'ins & outs'. I just recall the days from CAD programs that NEVER seemed to cross platforms seamlessly.

Besides... I would think it to be in the best interest of software developers to make their stuff as user-friendly and flexible as possible. There shouldn't be a need for third-party software for interchange of files.

Maybe it's a problem with the version of Finale you're using. I was never able to get XML import or export to work in any flavor of F' 2006, but both worked more-or-less seamlessly in F' 2007.

AOBTW, CAD files still don't exchange seamlessly across platforms. Hell, even AutoCAD doesn't always import files created in earlier versions cleanly.

[BVD Press]

Tubatinker: I am not sure I understand the XML issue? I use it almost everyday and have very few issues. When they do come up, I email Micahel the SIbelius and Finale describe what didn't transfer over and usually he quickly releases an update. I feel like it is MIDI on Steroids....

I have had no success with XML... Most likely mostly due to the fact that I am just a novice Finale user and just haven't taken the time to learn all the 'ins & outs'. I just recall the days from CAD programs that NEVER seemed to cross platforms seamlessly.

Besides... I would think it to be in the best interest of software developers to make their stuff as user-friendly and flexible as possible. There shouldn't be a need for third-party software for interchange of files.

I am going with it is the complete opposite: By allowing a program to create and import or export XML files a company is acknowledging the other programs viability. I still marvel that either Finale or Sibelius let's us import or export XML files. Maybe the first time the customer was put first for either company?

If you are on Finale 2006, 2007, Sibelius 4,etc. it might make sense to bump up to 2012 and 7 if you use XML on a regular basis. If not, don't even bother and just stick with the older versions that work.

If you ever need help, just PM or email me...

[Dan Schultz]

..... If you are on Finale 2006, 2007, Sibelius 4,etc. it might make sense to bump up to 2012 and 7 if you use XML on a regular basis. If not, don't even bother and just stick with the older versions that work.

If you ever need help, just PM or email me...

Thanks. I'm using 2011. I don't do any composition. All I use it for is to do transpositions for my community band and some treble clef brass band stuff. I just scan and transpose. A friend uses an old version of Encore. I just remember it being a real pain trying to export/import XML files during a couple of 'stabs' of sharing files.

Like I mentioned.... If I spent more time with Finale, I would probably find it easier to use!

[BVD Press]

Encore to anything is a royal pain. Mainly because development stopped a while back.

When you need to transpose again, scan the piece and send me the file. I can dump it into SmartScore X Pro, export to XML which you can then import into Finale.

[Dan Schultz]

Encore to anything is a royal pain. Mainly because development stopped a while back.

When you need to transpose again, scan the piece and send me the file. I can dump it into SmartScore X Pro, export to XML which you can then import into Finale.

Thanks for the offer. I have the demo for SmartScore X Pro. It works fine once I figured out that my old scanner was the culprit... dithering. All is well now that I'm using a much better Epson scanner (that doesn't 'dither'). My biggest problem at the moment is that I'm just too darned cheap to purchase the full version of Smart Score!

[MaryAnn]

I remember how much more I liked Finale before Makemusic took it over.

I think where this is headed is that applications that can't really make a lot of money, are going to end up in the trash heap, and we'll have software like MuseScore. It won't be as fancy as Finale but will be usable.

MA