recordings of 3/4 Eb tubas

[jacobg]

Are there any recordings or videos of classical music played on a 3/4 Eb tuba? Like in the 14-15" bell range?

[TheHatTuba]

Some of Oystein Baadsvik's newer stuff is on his Miraphone Star Lite (14" bell). His Hirsbrunner also had a smallish bell.

[jacobg]

Are there any recordings of classical music on a Miraphone 183 3/4 Eb tuba or something similar?

[jacobg]

Hmm, it seems like these horns are seldom used for classical recordings.
How about 3/4 F tubas? or old, small bore German F tubas? Any recordings?

[J.c. Sherman]

Most of the Vienna Phil's recordings, especially older ones, are made on a small F of very "traditional" dimensions...

As for Eb, I wouldn't consider a Miraphone 183 a 3/4 Eb... it's rather substantial. What do you consider a 3/4 Eb?

[jacobg]

I have never seen a Miraphone 183 - just going off what I've read on this board. I understand it is long but with a smallish bore and bell.
I suppose the 3/4 Eb's I'm thinking of are the old Conn and King tubas with 14-15" bells, or smaller English tubas. There have been two small 4-valve Eb Conns on ebay recently and it got me wondering what they sound like.
What kind of tuba was used in the Vienna Phil? Any pictures of it?

[jacobg]

Also Baltimore brass called their 183 an 3/4. But yes, it seems very long to call a 3/4.

http://www.baltimorebrass.net/pic.php?id=1300" target="_blank

[J.c. Sherman]

They're full sized; same bore as a 184 CC, bigger throat, tall stature... it's a good size. Monsters are what I'd call 5/4 (the Conn might qualify as a 6/4).

[TheHatTuba]

Hmm, it seems like these horns are seldom used for classical recordings.
How about 3/4 F tubas? or old, small bore German F tubas? Any recordings?

Solo recordings of small, German F's:
Roger Bobo, Galliard Sonata/maybe others(?) from Bobissimo - Miraphone 180
Floyd Cooley, Romantic Tuba - Gronitz FZ-124(?)
Michael Lind, Play Tuba/Virtuoso Tuba - Alexander 155

[Bob Kolada]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0DWDMzMoFVs" target="_blank

Alan Baer on a MW 182, can't get much smaller!

[opus37]

They're full sized; same bore as a 184 CC, bigger throat, tall stature... it's a good size. Monsters are what I'd call 5/4 (the Conn might qualify as a 6/4).

I'm not sure I believe this. I own a Kanstul 66 which is marketed as a 4/4 tuba. I also own a Martin Monster Eb. They both fit in the exact same chronkite and SKB case. They are the same height, bell diameter, bore and distance across the valves. I have a hard time saying the Martin is a 5/4 tuba based on this information. You may be correct that is is a 5/4, but please let me know why you think that it is.

[J.c. Sherman]

Case accommodation isn't a great ascriber of bore profile, IMHO. The Kanstul, however, is the same size as a York Monster.

They're all in the 4/4 realm, I suppose... but the Martin is, IIRC, a bit larger in the bell throat and bows, but with similar stature and bell flare to the York/Kanstul.

Without sitting next to them, My point is more about the size of the 183, rather then a pretty vague assessment of the quarter system. As a huge Eb fan, however, The Conn's pretty beastly!

[opus37]

Thank you for your response on the 4/4 5/4 size question. Since this has been an ongoing discussion, your comment about it not just being the bore, bell diameter or height, but the tubing profile of the horn that helps define it's size. I think this is helpful to a lot of people to better understand the concepts.