CC York Restoration by Lee Stofer
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PT-606
That instrument looks very similar to the B&S PT-606. Is this the model B&S used to make the 606? Other than the 4th valve wrap and extensions.
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Re: PT-606
Cameron,Cameron Gates wrote:That instrument looks very similar to the B&S PT-606. Is this the model B&S used to make the 606? Other than the 4th valve wrap and extensions.
I had the same thoughts as you except that Bob Tucci had e-mailed me that one that he had owned was used for the 606-GR41. It was a 1937 York as opposed to this 1938. That lineage was Arnold Jacobs, Harold Mc Donald, Robert Tucci and currently Mike Johnson. According to Rick Denney's York pages, Mike had learned that 12 total of these were built. That York and this gorgeous one would be sisters to drool over. I love my GR-41 more each day but it is great to hear that Yamaha is developing on this York too! There are going to be some great horns out there to choose from if this happens.
Mike Johnson's 1937 York
Bravo to Lee for fantastic work and Thanks to Mr. Self for sharing photographs with us!
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Re: PT-606
Upon further review it does look like the bell on Self's has a bit more flare at the end than the 606. Also the curved branches do not look as wide. I would really like to play the original instrument that the 606 was copied from. That has to be a great instrument.Paul S wrote:Cameron,Cameron Gates wrote:That instrument looks very similar to the B&S PT-606. Is this the model B&S used to make the 606? Other than the 4th valve wrap and extensions.
I had the same thoughts as you except that Bob Tucci had e-mailed me that one that he had owned was used for the 606-GR41. It was a 1937 York as opposed to this 1938. That lineage was Arnold Jacobs, Harold Mc Donald, Robert Tucci and currently Mike Johnson. According to Rick Denney's York pages, Mike had learned that 12 total of these were built. That York and this gorgeous one would be sisters to drool over. I love my GR-41 more each day but it is great to hear that Yamaha is developing on this York too! There are going to be some great horns out there to choose from if this happens.
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Re: PT-606
Jim has graciously given me permission to post these pictures on my web page. Currently, only this one and Mike Johnson's are shown. I have several pictures of old Yorks in my archives, but after seeing these, I realized this needed to be a gallery of instruments whose provenance was known. Your information from Bob Tucci has also been added to further document the provenance of Mike Johnson's tuba.Paul S wrote:According to Rick Denney's York pages, Mike had learned that 12 total of these were built. That York and this gorgeous one would be sisters to drool over.
http://www.rickdenney.com/york.htm
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Andy, where does that fifth valve linkage go? Is it up by the valve and operated with the left hand? That horn looks soooo stinking cool. I want more pictures, and I want them now!!!!! Leave out no details. Tell Lee that he needs to do at least 100 of these a year and get them out to the shows so we can see his work. OMG I want to see that horn in person.TubaAS wrote:FWIW, Lee has another York original CC, similar to this one, but no 5th valve yet, and it had a detachable upright bell.
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(sigh) Ducks...Cameron Gates wrote:That horn looks soooo stinking cool. I want more pictures, and I want them now!!!!! Leave out no details. Tell Lee that he needs to do at least 100 of these a year and get them out to the shows so we can see his work. OMG I want to see that horn in person.
Lee, that's a really nice job. That's got to be seriously cool, bringing a horn like that back to beyond it's original glory.
Probably sounds O.K. too, I guess. '38 York... yeah, whatever. The licks on "The Flintstones" were all right. She's no Buescher helicon, but she'll do.

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Andy, I'm confused about the modifications to the 4th/5th valves. In the "before" pictures, it looks like there was a 5th valve in the leadpipe, with the valve tubing running up the bell. That tubing is missing in the "after" pictures. And in the earlier description, I think it was Mr. Self who said
Thanks for any additional info.
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Was the "second extension" just a longer 5th valve, routed around the back of the horn instead of up the bell?Years ago George put an extension on the 4th valve which added the lower notes and helped with intonation. It worked so well that we left it on and Lee actually improved it by adding a second extension--which makes it fully chromatic to the pedals.
Thanks for any additional info.
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