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I thought you would be interested in seeing these pictures of straight F cimbasso we have had specially made for a customer.

He wanted it like a giant valve trombone and that is what it is. To play you can have pin on end resting on a chair, or stand in front of the player and at rest it fits nicely on contrabass trombone stand.

I don't know if this is configuration that will appeal to anyone else? It is certainly easier to move around - more like large trombone and I like the look of it.
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If you haven't boxed it up yet, you might try for another picture, with more scale cues. The first picture hints at how big this thing is, but it's ambiguous.
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Looks like fun!

What is the purpose of the rod sticking straight out (and how far does it go)? Just for supporting it when resting? Seems... dangerous? :)

Also, how heavy is it? Seems like a lot of those rotary trombones get complaints about weight and balance. I also wonder how comfortable the 5th valve is...?
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I suspect the end pin is for supporting the weight while the horn is resting in the trombone stand. I could imagine quite a tortional strain on the instrument without.

It looks very front heavy.
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Ah, of course, a stand stand! :)
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Way cool. :D
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All I can think of is HEAVY--and how long until that peg snaps/bends off from the weight....
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bort wrote:What is the purpose of the rod sticking straight out (and how far does it go)? Just for supporting it when resting? Seems... dangerous? :)
It's for jousting, of course! The horn looks awesome, but I'm not certain that I'm quite hardcore enough to carry such a beast.

It's really awesome to see how you're willing to build custom horns for your customers!
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emcallaway wrote:It's really awesome to see how you're willing to build custom horns for your customers!
Absolutely. This entrepreneurial thing that Jonathan does is incredible. Who else would produce a modern-day ophicleide against all odds?!

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As long as you're doing custom work, would there be any chance of getting just a valve section that works with the bell section of the F contrabass trombone? Not sure if that would even be possible/work well with smaller bore, but it might be useful for college trombone choirs to have options depending on the players available and their relative slide/valve technique....

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Thank you for your comments guys :)

The straight cimbasso is much the same size as contrabass trombone in F (unfortunately I have not currently got one of those to do comparison picture). Weight of the cimbasso is 12 ½ lb, so quite difficult to hold out while playing. I have found experimenting that the centre of gravity is between 2rd and 3rd valve, so if had support attached around there, it would balance quite well. I think I have seen bass trombone player with such support leg? So maybe one of those could be attached and it would then work quite well. Operating the valves does not seem a problem - the angle much like rotary valve trumpet.
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A cb slide trbn bell piece with it's valves plus an added straight 5 valve valve section would be very heavy to use, so maybe that would more be something for the local gym :)

However, Ergobone, http://www.ergobrass.com/, is one of those supporting devices that might be used. Available in different configurations. In the UK Phil Parker seems to sell the stuff, http://www.philparker.biz/index.php/war ... r-773.html
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