Why Learn CC Tuba? (if you're not a pro-in-the-making)

tmz1m · Post by **tmz1m** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:12 pm

bloke wrote:Even if they had been the same exact models of Bb and C, there still would have been countless factors that would keep any comparison from being "fair", much less "scientific".

Sure. I was more interested in a general comparison. Maybe one day I'll play both back to back and see if I can tell a noticeable difference.

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:10 pm

bloke wrote:Even if they had been the same exact models of Bb and C, there still would have been countless factors that would keep any comparison from being "fair", much less "scientific".

I would also expect some factors that keep the comparison from testing the hypothesis. I mean, if we're saying, hypothetically,

there is no tonal difference between CC and BBb tubas with the same model number

... and you hear a difference between Miraphone 186 in the respective keys, I would have to ask whether it may have suited Miraphone to insure that difference by design, hoping to appeal to different markets for those keys. I.e., yes, because they wanted them to sound different! If you can't guarantee this didn't happen, then the test is only about whether the CC and BBb 186's sound different. And likewise for rotary vs. piston tubas.

Jess Haney · Post by **Jess Haney** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:28 pm

I think it more or less is preference. Considering I just had this argument with another player, to say CC is "better" is crap. There are many great made CC's and now there are more "pro" model BBb's hitting the market. It is more about preference and what you are comfortable with than saying CC is far superior. I know I am beating a dead horse with this but the stigma of BBb being the amateur instrument needs to go away. There are some great playing BBbs out there and not to mention great uses (brass band ect). Play what you sound and feel great on, end of story.

Worth · Post by **Worth** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:33 pm

ehlutzcem wrote:The choice to stick with BBb was easy for me, since I still play euphonium and am too lazy to learn two sets of fingerings.

I play CC because I also play TC Euphonium and am challenged to learn two sets of fingerings

k001k47 · Post by **k001k47** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:50 am

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Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:17 am

I would say the main advantage of CC is in orchestra where the music often goes into higher register. The CC being tone higher makes that more comfortable and the CC more of a multi-purpose tuba.

I think the difference in tone is more that of different styles of tuba (e.g. American 6/4 v Kaiser), rather than of pitch.

The CC/BBb comparisons demonstrated by Gene Pokorny and Tony Kniffen in their presentation at ITEC were for me inconclusive of the tonal difference made by pitch. I preferred CC for some excerpts and BBb for others. I guess that was more a matter what tone of individual tuba I felt more appropriate for that particular music...Tony Kniffen well demonstrated how F tuba can be perfect for Bruckner 4

tmz1m · Post by **tmz1m** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:59 pm

Came across this interesting post from Bobo's blog a few years ago: http://bomaestro.blogspot.com/2009/05/e ... n-bbb.html" target="_blank

He's referring to the Fafner BBb, but it's an interesting discussion along these same lines.

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