B&S 52 mpc specs?
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B&S 52 mpc specs?
Anyone know what a B&S 52 mouthpiece is?
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
I only ask because there appears to be nothing on the web...
This is an older mouthpiece, I think, with a Bach shape. Says only "B&S 52" and has an extremely funnel shaped cup. Just curious what it is comparable to. Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
This is an older mouthpiece, I think, with a Bach shape. Says only "B&S 52" and has an extremely funnel shaped cup. Just curious what it is comparable to. Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
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Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
Post a photo!
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
Fair enough, good point. Photo might help show what vintage, though.
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
Attempting to attach a photo or two...
In the meantime, I should include the information that I withheld (age-related lapse). The fellow I obtained this from said it was the only mouthpiece he ever used with his VMI 103 (which he got new in 1996). So, it seems reasonable to assume B&S included this with the 103. (Or perhaps his dad asked them for a recommendation and was provided the 52 when he bought his son the tuba - like all good dads should.)
In the meantime, I should include the information that I withheld (age-related lapse). The fellow I obtained this from said it was the only mouthpiece he ever used with his VMI 103 (which he got new in 1996). So, it seems reasonable to assume B&S included this with the 103. (Or perhaps his dad asked them for a recommendation and was provided the 52 when he bought his son the tuba - like all good dads should.)
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Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
I give up.
I uploaded them here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1103963392 ... 4XZ8YPQjAE#" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
The B&S 52 is in the middle. Melton 18 on left and Helleberg 7B on right. The only other mouthpieces I own to which I can compare it.
Bloke, the 52 has a total width of 1/16th inch shy of 2 inches. The other 2 are 1/8th inch shy of 2 inches. The 52 rim is wider so the internal diameter seems about the same - perhaps a hair wider - as the others. But it is much deeper than the others - which are roughly similar.
I uploaded them here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1103963392 ... 4XZ8YPQjAE#" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
The B&S 52 is in the middle. Melton 18 on left and Helleberg 7B on right. The only other mouthpieces I own to which I can compare it.
Bloke, the 52 has a total width of 1/16th inch shy of 2 inches. The other 2 are 1/8th inch shy of 2 inches. The 52 rim is wider so the internal diameter seems about the same - perhaps a hair wider - as the others. But it is much deeper than the others - which are roughly similar.
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Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
This seems like a good explanation. It is surprising how incompatible the outside shape of the mouthpiece is and deep, deep funnel of the inside are.
Whatever its history/inspiration, it plays surprisingly well. I assumed it would be way too deep for my level of chop development, but it works pretty well for me.
Whatever its history/inspiration, it plays surprisingly well. I assumed it would be way too deep for my level of chop development, but it works pretty well for me.
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Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: B&S 52 mpc specs?
Your description couldn't be better. It is like it has no higher partials at all. Quite boring. I will say, though, it makes for seriously easy low range playing.bloke wrote:To me, the Holton 52/Conn Chief/Conn 2 and similar mouthpieces, sonically, remind me of a bass guitar plugged into an amplifier with the treble turned all the way down and the bass turned all the way up.
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On a more up-note, a new TU-29 arrived in the mail today. I have a Mirafone 186 and figured I should give it a shot since it was, I believe, supplied with these horns. Now that one plays well! Anyway, I think the B&S 52 will be taking up space in a shoebox for now...
Thanks for the help.
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Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb