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The John Packer 379 CC tuba Joe is going to be selling looks like a VERY nice tuba--see the sponsor's section.....and we all know what it is cloned from.....
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Cloned from a BMB with an independent 5th? :wink:
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Ahh.......we DO NOT have a winner..... :o
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Well the layout is almost identical...
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Picture?
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kmorgancraw wrote:Cloned from a BMB with an independent 5th? :wink:
If that's what you want, you'd be thor-oughly disappointed.
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bort wrote:
kmorgancraw wrote:Cloned from a BMB with an independent 5th? :wink:
If that's what you want, you'd be thor-oughly disappointed.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding....almost 8)
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Curmudgeon wrote:Looks like a Hirsbrunner/Adams 4/4.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding....I believe we have a winner :D
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Ah!
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Funny how all the "serious" guys were griping about the clones til the PT6 copy came out; I'd imagine this will have a similar reaction... :mrgreen:

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Will John Packer himself be there?
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I tried it here at Midwest and wasn't really impressed. Bloke informed me how flat the horn is. (Thanks Joe, it was nice to meet you)
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Ugh...and I think Joe agreed to buy it too....
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Joe,

How are the thread tolerances on the Packer?
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So you think this valve block would be a good alternative to making a Franken BAT? How much do you estimate a valve block running? When might they become available? This really would appeal to some because the block is already all there, it's cut to CC, and could work well on a BAT or any fraken project.

Just looking for a little info,
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bloke wrote:a Schilke Helleberg II mouthpiece plays it up to pitch (for me - and with a c. 1/2" pull) and offers the instrument some liveliness (that, imo, these Hb designs are asking for).
I haven't thought of my HB2P as not-lively, but after reading your suggestion I got a Schilke Helleberg II to try and it is a very nice match for this tuba. It is indeed lively and in tune.
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Michael Bush wrote:
bloke wrote:a Schilke Helleberg II mouthpiece plays it up to pitch (for me - and with a c. 1/2" pull) and offers the instrument some liveliness (that, imo, these Hb designs are asking for).
I haven't thought of my HB2P as not-lively, but after reading your suggestion I got a Schilke Helleberg II to try and it is a very nice match for this tuba. It is indeed lively and in tune.
From why I've been told my Bruno Tilz/Hirsbrunner M1 is very similar to the SH II. Works great on my HB-2. Better intonation, more colorful sound (on a tuba that is already very colorful), more focus, etc.
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