And the traditional style that Alexander uses, with the V-seam.
Willson has this statement on their Website, and this is new to me:
For example, our brass instrument craftsmen are capable of making a one-piece bell out of a circle of metal – something that is immensely important for the famous WILLSON sound.
For example, our brass instrument craftsmen are capable of making a one-piece bell out of a circle of metal – something that is immensely important for the famous WILLSON sound.
Mandrel on a lathe? Trombone bell Likely that would be only the flare part of the bell. It would look a bit like a flower pot - a flat bottom at the snout of the mandrel with a couple holes where it was pinned.
I wonder if anyone has tried machining a bell from a solid block of material? Like, one huge block- there would be no seams and the thickness could be kept very uniform.
Perhaps machine out the inside dimensions and then place block over jig/mandrel to provide support before machining the outside dimensions. Might not work for brass (don't know of people buying huge chunks of brass), but it might work for steel or aluminum. I know lathes big enough exist, and it would be an easy process for a CNC machine.
I wonder what a solid machined stainless steel bell would play like? Aluminum, titanium, maybe? Heck, why not depleted uranium!
MW 45k
Alexander 163CC 5v
Conn 72h, 1G
King 2280
Used to own: MW20 BBb(super old model) 1915 Conn Grand Orchestral BBb, small valve MW 2145
Used to borrow: Miraphone 190 CC, from IAA
southtubist wrote:I wonder if anyone has tried machining a bell from a solid block of material? Like, one huge block- there would be no seams and the thickness could be kept very uniform.
Perhaps machine out the inside dimensions and then place block over jig/mandrel to provide support before machining the outside dimensions. Might not work for brass (don't know of people buying huge chunks of brass), but it might work for steel or aluminum. I know lathes big enough exist, and it would be an easy process for a CNC machine.
I wonder what a solid machined stainless steel bell would play like? Aluminum, titanium, maybe? Heck, why not depleted uranium!
Cesium - for that liquid sound
1989 Yamaha YBB 641 (4R)
1938 King 1236 Symphony Eb (4P) w/Monster Bell
1927 Buescher Eb Tuba
1940 Pan American 58C Eb Alto Horn
Pretty much all tuba bells start out as sheet brass which is then brazed together and finally spun on a mandrel. Hydro-forming was introduced by Conn in the 1930s - that's right, the 1930s. King finally got their hands on hydraulic equipment in the 1970s; prior to that they used clamshell mandrels and cables pulling lead slugs from the big end to the small with hydraulic pistons on large bows. The slugs were then melted down, recast and reused. King did nickel plate their mandrels, which helps account for the consistency of their parts over the years. Once wear was found the tool was spot plated back to spec. Tooling cost a lot of money, especially when it was done by hand without aid of scanners, computers, etc. This method is still used albeit with plastic slugs.
Every brass player should have the opportunity to tour an instrument factory; despite the similarities to other forms of mass production in the end they all jigged up and assembled and soldered by skilled workers - "by hand". The image of kindly old Geppetto tapping away at his workbench disappears quickly when you see how horns are actually produced.
CNC technology has replaced some of the work done by "Swiss screw machines", lathes, etc. Much more consistent and easier to finish off the parts too.
Mark Heter
1926 Martin Handcraft 3v upright bell front action ; 1933 Martin Handcraft 3v bellfront; King 2341 (old style); King top-action 3v; Bach (King) fiberglass sousaphone.
