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HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby eeflattuba » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:19 pm

I currently own two tubas. A bbflat Yamaha neo and a besson sovereign 981 ee flat.I own two high end gig bags but have always preferred to carry my assets in their respective hard cases.My repair tech greatly appreciates it.I am no spring chicken... I am 57 years old and sometimes it is a struggle to carry them in this fashion, especially in this part of the world.It would seem that not many of us use the hard case anymore.Am I right on this?
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby bloke » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:09 pm

Cases tear up automobile interiors.
Bags tear up tubas.
Pick one.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Schlepporello » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:45 pm

For most of my transportation needs, I use a gig bag. BUT! Our car has a smooth flat deck (Toyota RAV 4) and my Toyota Tundra has a Crew Max cab and I lay the horn across the rear seat. I see the need to transport it by bus in the future though, which is why I'm holding on to my large MTS hard case with wheels. Bus drivers have no respect for your luggage and a hard case is the only way to go.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby TheTuba » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:46 pm

bloke wrote:Cases tear up automobile interiors.
Bags tear up tubas.
Pick one.


+1
For everyday, im thinking of taking a gig bag,
but if im going long distance to new places or to a audition/competition, Hard case it is
as long as you're not overly clumsy, you should be fine with a gig bag (at least thats what ive been hearing)
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby the elephant » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:23 pm

eeflattuba wrote:I ... have always preferred to carry my investments...


Just pointing out (because it bugs me) that tubas are assets. They are not investments. It is important that we all understand that our horns are NOT investments.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby eeflattuba » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:04 am

the elephant wrote:
eeflattuba wrote:I ... have always preferred to carry my investments...


Just pointing out (because it bugs me) that tubas are assets. They are not investments. It is important that we all understand that our horns are NOT investments.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby eeflattuba » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:05 am

bloke wrote:Cases tear up automobile interiors.
Bags tear up tubas.
Pick one.

I thought I did?
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby TheTuba » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:19 am

eeflattuba wrote:
bloke wrote:Cases tear up automobile interiors.
Bags tear up tubas.
Pick one.

I thought I did?


good point lol :shock:
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Lars Trawen » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:09 am

Hi,
Ever since I bought my Kaiser Tuba 1996 I've always transported it in its hardcase in all situations.
I don't own a gigbag for it and feel no need for one despite I play it many times every week in various bands.
Still the tuba has no dents, only a few very small dings originating from bad behavior of my neighbour players.
For me as an amateur the tuba is an investment which I want to last as long as possibly.
It also looks very impressive due to its size among my tuba neighbours and I want to keep it so.
The drawbacks are that you need strong arms and a spacious car.
The tuba in its hardcase weights about 60 lbs together.
In the long term I consider it's worth it.
Hopefully you're lucky with your gigbags,
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Stryk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:41 am

I have a mixture. As much as I see them berated, I like the Chinese cases. They are light, don't tear up the car, and do a better than gig bag job of protecting. Down size is they are bulky - but not as much as a hard case. My favorite for every day use is the Gard Wheelie. It has a lot more protection than most gig bags, yet not as bulky and heavy as a case. As Bloke says, pick your poison.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Snake Charmer » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:44 am

Most of the time I use a gig bag. With some thoughtful moving it gives enough protection even to big bell horn like my Besson 982. Just take care about doorframes, but even an unruly elevator door did no harm to my horn. All dents happend outside of any bag or case...The gig bag has less weight and more carrying comfort than a hard case, but you have to test it, my old Soundwear bag was not only too bulky for the car trunk but I also had to bend my arm when carrying, otherwise it scraped on the floor. The Couesnon bag is much better. And yes, it is better for the car backseat. But mine fits into the trunk, so this doesn't matter too much.
For concert tours with the horn down in the basement of course a hard case gives a bit more security. And I love the hardcase when going by train, I made a very light trolley with roller-bearing pneumatic-tired wheels, so I can push it around very easy and without noise. I also fitted a bicycle bell to prevent people falling over it...
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Voisi1ev » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:50 pm

bloke wrote:Cases tear up automobile interiors.
Bags tear up tubas.
Pick one.


Wish I would have thought of this last year before the back of my new truck got scratched up a bit.

And gig bags look cooler :tuba:
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Donn » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Not me - either way. I've never owned a tuba case, and bags don't protect anything I care about (finish is already pretty far gone.) When people see me coming with the tuba, they're a little more likely to catch on if the tuba itself is hanging out there in plain view, and give me the room I'm going to need. Anyone else handling or working around my tuba in the "green room" etc. is going to be a little less likely (I hope) to step on it or whatever, if it's conspicuously a musical instrument. (When I had a home made bag for my big rotary long ago, people used to ask me if it was a tent.)

In contrast, the one time someone really damaged an instrument, it was in a big, hardy looking case. OK, it was a bari sax, which is about as delicate as a musical instrument can be, and it was an airline employee, but in retrospect, that case was not a solution, it was part of the problem.

Though my big detachable front bell tuba might be a special "case", if it turned out to be more manageable split into two cases. That's a hard tuba to carry.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby bloke » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:47 pm

I brought the upright bell (that I made for my bell-front compensating Eb Besson) to the boat gig ONE time, because it was that RIDICULOUS day where I had to bring three tubas, a passenger, AND a bicycle (to ride into the gridlocked Ole Miss campus to get to a commencement).

The Besson with the upright bell fits into one of the bags in bloke's ChrokhiteCollection (a rare top-action-oriented Chronkhite-made RB bag), and that made things manageable in the car.

That morning (even though the ceiling in the big 2nd-deck lounge is low), the guys in the boat jazz band asked me to bring that bell back again. Though (likely) the patrons couldn't hear it as well, the GUYS IN THE BAND could hear the tuba a little bit better, and NOT with a delay...so - since then - the recording bell has stayed at the house. (eek!!!) Since (truth be told) the JP377 Eb is actually a better instrument (sound/response/intonation/precise fit and alignment of pistons), I wonder if I should just BUY ONE of those...?? Heck, they come with an AMAZING styled-after-MB (fiberglass frame/zipper) case. :shock:

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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby sushi20j » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:36 pm

I use a gig bag as the MTS hard case I used to have wouldn't fit in my Celica without dropping the back seats and taking other gear out of the trunk. I loved the better protection the hard case provided, but without a good way to transport it the case became a garage ornament.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby nworbekim » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:38 am

is the case that is shipped with the chinese instruments much lighter than the fiberglass cases? i had one with my tuba exchange instrument but it never occurred to me to weigh it.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby Leland » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:03 pm

bloke wrote:Cases tear up automobile interiors.
Bags tear up tubas.
Pick one.

I pick neither.

I think that carrying and transporting my tuba case-free makes me super-aware of doorways and speed bumps.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby bloke » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:00 pm

...just as "driving at 97 mph" (when a customer has prevented me from getting ready to leave on time for a gig) makes me super-aware of curves in the road when cops can hide.
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby peter birch » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:14 am

a gig bag is a specific exclusion in my instruments insurance policy
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Re: HARD CASE VS GIG BAG

Postby smitwill1 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:48 am

Not “Hard case VS gig bag”, but “hard case AND gig bag”. When I need both tubas for a gig I carry one in a backpack style bag and the other in its case. But when carrying one horn at a time I usually use the case. If concerned about upholstery (my friends’ cars when riding with them—mine...meh...damage done already) I’ll toss in a clean packing blanket to lay the case on. As convenient as a gig bag is, I’d kick myself hard if I bent a valve stem, or dented a leadpipe or valve tubing as a result of not protecting my tools properly.
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