I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE monkey-fighting SNAKES IN MY Monday-to-Friday TUBA!!!tofu wrote:Whoa!!! Snakes in my tuba??? Bad enough there are snakes on planes and coming out of toilets - but now my tuba??? That makes the residual effects of lamp oil to my health pale in comparison!!!![]()
Tuba maintenance kit
- The Brute Squad
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Joe K
Player of tuba, taker of photos, breaker of things (mostly software)
Miraphone 181 F w/ GW Matanuska/Yamaha John Griffiths
Kalison Daryl Smith w/ Blokepiece (#2 32.6, Orchestra Grand Cup, Symphony American shank)
Player of tuba, taker of photos, breaker of things (mostly software)
Miraphone 181 F w/ GW Matanuska/Yamaha John Griffiths
Kalison Daryl Smith w/ Blokepiece (#2 32.6, Orchestra Grand Cup, Symphony American shank)
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NDCompuGeek
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Oh, OK, got it. I had an engine in an older car that used 20W50 oil, but if I put anything lighter than that into it, it would use oil almost as fast as the gas. Rings were optional, I guess. Should have caught it: thick = heavy, thin = light. :headdesk:
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Radar
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I kept the MSDS for our work locations for a while, and there is an MSDS sheet on just about everything, and they are all scary. Some of the common household items like Windex, if you read the sheet would make you never want to clean you windows again. Keep in mind some of these products are sold in 55 gallon drums for industrial uses, so the MSDS sheet has to cover occurrences like if I spill a 55 gallon drum of this in an enclosed space what can happen, and what should I do about it. A few ounces of oil in your horn isn't going to cause a risk, unless you happen to have a severe sensitivity to it. Personally I make it a habit not to pull air through my horn when I breath, you are probably at more risk from rotting food, and the slime that accumulates in your horn over time than the oil. The petroleum based valve oil most of us have been using for years is basically the same stuff as lamp oil. In small quantities there should be no real risk.Tubamaphone wrote:I don’t get the fetish with lamp oil. Look at the safety data sheet for it. Aspiration hazard. I’ll probably get flak here for going against the grain, but I won’t risk my health. https://www.tikibrand.com/blog/wp-conte ... rev-04.pdf
Retired Army Reserve 98th Div. Band: Euphonium, Trombone, Tuba, Bass Guitar
Miraphone 186 CC
Conn 36K Sousaphone
Euphonium: Yamaha YEP-321 (modified with Euro-shank receiver with Lehman M mouthpiece)
Trombones:Yamaha 612 Bass, Conn 88H
Miraphone 186 CC
Conn 36K Sousaphone
Euphonium: Yamaha YEP-321 (modified with Euro-shank receiver with Lehman M mouthpiece)
Trombones:Yamaha 612 Bass, Conn 88H
- groth
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Unless you are very sensitive to fumes and chemicals..and there are plenty of people out there.Radar wrote:In small quantities there should be no real risk.Tubamaphone wrote:I don’t get the fetish with lamp oil. Look at the safety data sheet for it. Aspiration hazard. I’ll probably get flak here for going against the grain, but I won’t risk my health. https://www.tikibrand.com/blog/wp-conte ... rev-04.pdf
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For some that are more sensitive to chemicals everything will affect them. I have a very hard time with buying used mouthpieces for that matter because of even light amounts of polish residue will give me migraines and trigger asthma.
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No problems with Blue Juice.
It even makes a nice hair tonic!!
It even makes a nice hair tonic!!
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hup_d_dup
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What valve oil you do recommend that is safe?Tubamaphone wrote:I don’t get the fetish with lamp oil. Look at the safety data sheet for it. Aspiration hazard. I’ll probably get flak here for going against the grain, but I won’t risk my health. https://www.tikibrand.com/blog/wp-conte ... rev-04.pdf
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hup_d_dup
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If you are putting a bottle's worth of oil in every few days, what do you do with all of it when it comes out?bloke wrote: Slosh a whole BOTTLE of valve oil ($$$!) through your instrument every few days (being labeled "valve oil", it's going to be "safe") to avoid lime build-up.
And how many instruments are receiving all this oil?
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NCSUSousa
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I have a friend who has identified an issue with the addative in Blue Juice valve oil. Go figure she's so sensitive to it that she can't sit next to a trumpet player who's using it on their instrument.groth wrote:Unless you are very sensitive to fumes and chemicals..and there are plenty of people out there.Radar wrote: In small quantities there should be no real risk.
BBb Tuba with 4 Rotors -
TE-2110 (2009) + TE Rose
Mack 210 (2011) + Bruno Tilz NEA 310 M0
G. Schneider (Made in GDR, 1981?) + Conn Helleberg 120S
I earn my living as an Electrical Engineer - Designing Power systems for buildings
TE-2110 (2009) + TE Rose
Mack 210 (2011) + Bruno Tilz NEA 310 M0
G. Schneider (Made in GDR, 1981?) + Conn Helleberg 120S
I earn my living as an Electrical Engineer - Designing Power systems for buildings
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On the topic of synthetic, petroleum based or lamp oil etc for oiling your instrument I would like to share a few thoughts based on my personal experience. I have been playing tuba for over 45 years and have tried many oils mentioned. Due to the acidity in my saliva I tend to get a white sludge in my horn when using petroleum based oils. So I switched to so called synthetic oils (the usual brands) and was surprised that I was still getting white sludge. The ONLY synthetic oils that don’t react and with me are Yamaha and Resilience oils. So why is this? In speaking with Matt from Resilience I learned that Synthesized or Hydro cracked mineral oil is the standard for synthetic lubricants. They is not a true synthetic. However, both Resilience and Yamaha are true synthetic made of POAs. There is a good article on this on the Resilience site. Currently I only use Yamaha and Resilience. The others including the green and white brand are now used to oil squeaky door hinges.
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