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In this band's performance there is a neat beat in the vamp just before the first strain. The after beats sound slightly delayed, giving a really nice perkiness to the rhythm. I have noticed this a lot in European marches. Are my ears deceiving me? Is there really a delay in the after beats?

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I think I hear a bum pa-bum, bum pa-pum

Instead of the usual bum bum, bum bum.

So, yes.

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What a wonderful rabbit-hole. The hitch-in-the beat is so together! Its really easy to hear in the smaller groups.

I love the combination of flugels with bass flugels in the baritone register. Slightly dark on the high voice with slightly bright on the low voice. It blends really nicely.

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Typical style for the region (Sudtirol) to add a slight delay to the beat. Seem to hear this in a lot of Austrian groups, too. The bands over there are outrageously good.
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This "alpine swing", combined with very obvious rubati is a style commonly used, especially during live concerts.
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You can also find this kind of specialty applied to original Viennese Waltzes, as performed at the "Wiener Opernball" or annual New Year´s concerts by the Wiener Philharmoniker.
Mnozil Brass can be heard occasionally making fun of or rather celebrating this practise by exaggeration.
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^ Truth!

And for internet radio, BR Heimat is a lot of fun. I think there might be a BR Blasmusik station too, but I forget. My kids are too young to really complain about it, so I have this music on in their bedroom all the time. What can I say, they like hearing the tuba!
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And the #1 German brass band, Ernst Hutter und sie Original Egerländer Musikanten:
Love it! Amazing to see a large auditorium packed with folks to hear a band concert! And they have just the right ratio of brass to woodwinds (and NO flutes!) :P
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Doc wrote:
bort wrote:^ Truth!

And for internet radio, BR Heimat is a lot of fun. I think there might be a BR Blasmusik station too, but I forget. My kids are too young to really complain about it, so I have this music on in their bedroom all the time. What can I say, they like hearing the tuba!

BR Heimat is my favorite radio station!
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Interesting comments all. I was surprised to see the Brixen band playing English style euphoniums, not oval horns. Frustratingly, the camera seemed determined to focus everywhere else while the euphoniums played lovely melodies. Also, I can’t get Will’s YouTube playlist to work, maybe it isn’t shared?
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