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SqueakyOnion wrote:So Nick (the ex-epileptic, or anyone else who would like to respond), did you move ALL THE TIME when you played, during technical and melodic parts?
I'm not sure when I actually did it or not; like I said, it was more or less subconcious. All I knew of it was what people were telling me after my performances.
SqueakyOnion wrote:After watching myself in a mirror, my bell only actually moves, at most, 4 or 5 inches, usually just an inch or two. The only other thing I noticed was that my shoulders tend to rise and fall ever so slightly with the music. Would doing this really constrict my air? As we all know, air is very precious to a WIND player...
I'm told that most people can get away with moving a little, but especially in my case, being around 6'5''+, everything gets a little more magnified. Shoulders rising and falling is a problem with air, and if nothing else, causes tension. It seems to be the trademark of jazz saxophone players, where the most famous of the idiom are trying to kill that stereotype (were you ever a sax player?).
SqueakyOnion wrote:Should I try to remain totally still when playing?
You don't have to be COMPLETELY still, but practicing thinking about being still will be a good excercise. It's like practicing taking the largest breaths you can take, but in performance, you probably don't want to spend the time during rests doing that. The practice just helps you take larger breaths naturally.
SqueakyOnion wrote:When I play remaining totally still, I feel almost inhibited from make the music more expressive.
The ability to move/not move should have no effect on your ability to express your music. Music is sound; not sight. Sure, it makes people THINK you know what you're doing, until the visual is taken away. Like I quoted before, "Play by SOUND, not by FEEL." That's what Prof. Ebbers stressed to me many times. If you want to move to the music, take up dancing. :P
SqueakyOnion wrote:I guess I really just want to know what the negative effects, if any, my movement has on my playing?
There can be many. Moving keeps your chops from being still on the mouthpiece, which can cause leaks, shifting embouchures, etc. It can cause problems with air. It can also cause tension, which will also affect your air intake. You ever notice how most trumpet players keep their right pinkie out of the ring next to the valves? Sure, some people do it, but it's a good idea not to due to the lack of independent digits. Or like puffing your cheeks. Bottom line, just don't do it.

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"SqueakyOnion wrote:
When I play remaining totally still, I feel almost inhibited from make the music more expressive.


The ability to move/not move should have no effect on your ability to express your music. Music is sound; not sight. Sure, it makes people THINK you know what you're doing, until the visual is taken away. Like I quoted before, "Play by SOUND, not by FEEL." That's what Prof. Ebbers stressed to me many times. If you want to move to the music, take up dancing. "


Well whether it should or not, it does. For myself, music is often an all-engaging activity. It's not only in my head. My mind is not separate from my body, my body is my mind, a part of it. There is no "mind controlling the body." It just all mind...I know that's not very clearly explained. But since my mind is engaged, my body has to be as well.

I may only be 18 (in a week :wink: ), but with all due respect, I think I'm tending to disagree with you on a "no-movement" idea, except for certain instances where the environment calls for complete stillness.

Also, how is raising my shoulders a problem with my air? My shoulders raise generally at the tops of phrases in expressive parts, not for breaths or anything of the sort?

My movement does not cause my embouchure to shift or leak, it's not nearly that much movement.

I really don't mean to sound arrogant, and am not trying to argue, and I have a feeling you're thinking I move more than I usually do...though maybe not. In any case, thank you for the responses.
Mark

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SqueakyOnion wrote:Also, how is raising my shoulders a problem with my air?
Go to a Pat Sheridan masterclass and try raising your shoulders...
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