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Post by tubamirum »

It won't take you long to experiment and then you make the decision.
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Post by windshieldbug »

If you mean pulling one and just leaving it there, the odds are very great that it won't matter. Only in a really, really, really, really small number of cases will it happen that a water key or something will end up on a very inconvenient accoustical node spot, and you'll know immediately and just use the other.

If you mean one that you can use to specifically tune certain notes, use the one most handy to grab. You'll also want to be able to move it back when you're not on that note.

If it makes no sound difference that you can hear (most likely), do the one that's easiest to grab while you're playing, because even if you don't use it now, you may want to as your ear gets better, and moving it at all (even a little) will mean that it'll be easier to move later.
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Post by smurphius »

Just to add to that, generally the reason two slides are available is because the length of the tuning slide (on the 4th valve especially) is so long, it may need tweaking in a general sense and on a note to note sense. If you find that you need to pull the bottom slide out a half an inch to get all the notes of the 4th valve an equal distance from perfectly in tune, then you use to top slide to compensate for each individual note.

On my MW 2145 I usually have the 4th valve slide pulled out about 3/4" and my 3rd valve slide pulled out about 1/2". I still pull out (on top) occasionally on the third valve to get it a bit more in tune.
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Post by quinterbourne »

On my Conn 3J, I use the bottom 1st valve slide to dump "spit" and the top 1st valve slide to adjust intonation.

I definitely agree that if a slide needs to be pulled a "minimum specific length" for all notes using that valve, then the lower valve slide should be pulled out that "minimum specific length" and then use the top slide to intonation adjustments "on the fly."

If you don't make intonation adjustments "on the fly" then I don't think it matters which slide you have pulled.
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Post by smurphius »

Oh, I just thought about this too...

You could choose to use the string player method..... push all the slides in and play sharp ALL THE TIME!!! Remember, for a string player it's always better to be sharp than out of tune!


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