Historical Baritone vs. Euphonium

[Chuck(G)]

The flicorno basso is the euphonium, and the great thing about this taxonomy is that there are two slots left in the same Bb rank, .

...except that modern usage tends to be "eufonio":

http://www.raffaeleinghilterra.it/lista ... ategoria=2

It's still a mess:

http://www.answers.com/topic/saxhorn

...says that the "flicorno basso" is the Eb or F tuba.

Maybe we should just invent some new names "frelp", "skeert", "boofoo", etc...

[Dan Schultz]

What's the difference between a baritone/euphonium player and a king-sized pizza?


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. you can feed a family of four with a king-sized pizza

[Albertibass]

from what ive been told,
baritones are cylindrical like, in that they have a direct sound closer to a trumpet sound.

euphoniums are conical (or more so than the baritone)..euphonium was invented to balance out the sound of the horns.

and i believe that Euphonium comes from a latin word for sweet sounding

[Chuck(G)]

and i believe that Euphonium comes from a latin word for sweet sounding

Nope, it's really a macaronism; Greek eu- and phonos, for "well" and "sound", but with a Latin -ium ending.

"pulmentum farina, caseo, botiro compaginatum, grossum, rude, et rusticanum" Not pizza, Dan, but macaroni...

[Donn]

...except that modern usage tends to be "eufonio":

http://www.raffaeleinghilterra.it/lista ... ategoria=2

It's still a mess:

http://www.answers.com/topic/saxhorn

...says that the "flicorno basso" is the Eb or F tuba.

Not a problem. Music Italian isn't really tied to modern Italian usage - you don't care if maybe these days in Rome one would say "con pantaloni ardenti" instead of "con brio". It's enough to say classic usage is flicorno tenore/baritono/basso for the three Bb sizes. Just have to get people to use it, and I think that will be no problem either. "Excuse me, but IT'S a flicorno TENORE!"

[LoyalTubist]

Some people get confused by the term BBb tuba, as the British use the term. For the Brits, a BBb tuba is a large bored tuba. For us Yanks, a BBb tuba is any tuba pitched two octaves below the Bb trumpet. The Brits call a narrow bored BBb tuba a Bb tuba. By traditional American definition it's still a BBb tuba. But some tuba retailers in America use the British terms (WW & BW for one).