Maybe they could entice Jupiter into making them for him.....PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
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It's odd to read someone saying they're open to innovation but then saying no to exactly that.
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Bass trombone mouthpieces have shank size issues. The best mouthpiece I found was the very deep cup one that came with it.
The narrow bore must also contribute to the stuffiness in performance.
That said, it's still great for practice.
The narrow bore must also contribute to the stuffiness in performance.
That said, it's still great for practice.
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Glad you didn’t bring up Uranus.PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
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How are plans going for a Wessex ophicleide? Now that would be exciting ...
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I bet it would work perfectly on a Norwegian Star!PMeuph wrote:Maybe they could entice Jupiter into making them for him.....PaulTkachenko wrote:Telling Nepture about the Saturn water key does sound a bit funny.
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Or a starlight for that matter.
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They'd be well suited to it - and could probably make one at a price point much better than an historic example and affordable for many, many folks. Ophicleide quartets!PaulTkachenko wrote:How are plans going for a Wessex ophicleide? Now that would be exciting ...
I'd be first in line for a new Ophicleide.
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I still would love one in the shape of a Fluba.
But, my official vote is for a Bubbie that could double as a Cimbasso
(wait - that means C bass.....)
But, my official vote is for a Bubbie that could double as a Cimbasso
(wait - that means C bass.....)
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That would be great. Cimbassi are made by many and possible to get, but ophicleides. WIth both a recording bell Bubbie and an ophicleide, maybe also a serpent, plus the ordinary modern instruments the tool box would be well equipped for many situations. Do I need to say that I also would like an ophicleide?!PaulTkachenko wrote:How are plans going for a Wessex ophicleide? Now that would be exciting ...
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Go on Jonathan - you'd make a mint on advance orders alone!
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Considering the terrific instruments to copy (I nominate mine or Nick Byrne's), the incredible simplicity of the manufacture and mechanism, and looking at the saxophone prices from China, it could be a very, very affordable instrument of very high quality!
As for serpents... well, there's no substitute for wood and leather (though I'm hearing terrific things about the new Carbon Fibre instruments from Wetter/Berger). I could never have performed Mendelssohn on my plastic Harding!
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As for serpents... well, there's no substitute for wood and leather (though I'm hearing terrific things about the new Carbon Fibre instruments from Wetter/Berger). I could never have performed Mendelssohn on my plastic Harding!
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Link?Lingon wrote:True, one of the good things with Bubbie is the size and style. Besides, there are contra bass trumpets out there, even a Swedish made instrument..., for those that absolutely want to play trumpet style.
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Sorry, the link is down, but it is made by instrument maker Lars Gerdt.Bob Kolada wrote: Link?
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Very interesting - the enthusiasm for an ophicleides! I may communicate with a few people off-line.
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I suspect there will be quite a market - people love curious things in this day and age.
Keep me in the loop on any developments as I'm super keen.
Keep me in the loop on any developments as I'm super keen.
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Yes, if it would cost around 2k, I am sure there would be several sold. Also, what could be great is cheap cases. To my knowledge there are currently no case makers. A backpack style case (a tad bigger than the current bass trombone one) would probably suit a lot of players....Neptune wrote:Very interesting - the enthusiasm for an ophicleides! I may communicate with a few people off-line.
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I think it would need to (and could reasonably) cost less than 2K (dollars, I assume).
Look at the prices of the bigger saxes:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bass-Saxophon ... 231bfa9ac2" target="_blank
I don't think there's any more to building an ophicleide than a bass sax. Less, I would have thought.
Look at the prices of the bigger saxes:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bass-Saxophon ... 231bfa9ac2" target="_blank
I don't think there's any more to building an ophicleide than a bass sax. Less, I would have thought.
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