About Allen Triplett

[dantetuba]

Hello guys,

Al contacted me last week.
He is willing to send me the horn.
I will wait and see what happens.

Thanks again for all

Dante

[imperialbari]

Hello guys,

Al contacted me last week.
He is willing to send me the horn.
I will wait and see what happens.

Thanks again for all

Dante

Again: I have no part in anything related to this thread, only commenting as somebody having experienced problematic deals in the past.

If the above promise to deliver was done in writing or in an electronically traceable format, then the sum may be reclaimed via MasterCard, if that was the payment method. Possibly also via similar cards.

In one case I had an instrument built to me. The maker gave me a fixed deadline, which he blew at a point of time, where I could not get my money back via MasterCard. When I protested, he claimed another person in the organization had failed to stock certain fittings needed to finish the instrument. My suspicion was that they were cash strapped and dragged on ordering those fittings. But exactly that communication from the seller would allow me to cancel the deal via MasterCard. When I threatened to do so by a given date, the delivery came quite promptly.

Klaus

[imperialbari]

Hello guys,

Al contacted me last week.
He is willing to send me the horn.
I will wait and see what happens.

Thanks again for all

Dante

Again: I have no part in anything related to this thread, only commenting as somebody having experienced problematic deals in the past.

If the above promise to deliver was done in writing or in an electronically traceable format, then the sum may be reclaimed via MasterCard, if that was the payment method. Possibly also via similar cards.

In one case I had an instrument built to me. The maker gave me a fixed deadline, which he blew at a point of time, where I could not get my money back via MasterCard. When I protested, he claimed another person in the organization had failed to stock certain fittings needed to finish the instrument. My suspicion was that they were cash strapped and dragged on ordering those fittings. But exactly that communication from the seller would allow me to cancel the deal via MasterCard. When I threatened to do so by a given date, the delivery came quite promptly.

Klaus

[etgreece]

I also have a pending order with Al. Has anyone heard anything new since this last May? I ordered a euphonium from him in August 2011 (and paid for it) and I am still waiting for it. I am willing to give him the opportunity to make it right, but I am just wondering if he is still working to get these orders filled. Any updates would be very helpful. Thank you.

[Michael Bush]

Has anyone heard anything new since this last May?

Yes.

Really tempted to leave it at that.

But I'll go on to say that he is working on making it right. Unfortunately it is a deep hole. I myself have received partial satisfaction, as have others. Al had personal problems and in hindsight it looks like he didn't handle them in the ideal way. I believe he will get through it, but it is not going to be quick. Nevertheless, I do believe he is basically a man of integrity who has had to learn a thing or two the hard way.

Flaming me for saying this will do no good and will receive no response from me, so just save it.

[etgreece]

tallyrand, I am not in the business of "flaming" anyone. I appreciate the reply. Like others, I really do wish that Al would just reply or send out some information. Before I found this forum, I didn't know if he was a scammer or not. If you have more contact, I would really appreciate any form of reply. As I said before, I am willing to wait for him to get things straightened out.

Again, thanks for the info.

[MartyNeilan]

But I'll go on to say that he is working on making it right. Unfortunately it is a deep hole. I myself have received partial satisfaction, as have others. Al had personal problems and in hindsight it looks like he didn't handle them in the ideal way. I believe he will get through it, but it is not going to be quick. Nevertheless, I do believe he is basically a man of integrity who has had to learn a thing or two the hard way.

100% agree

[Tim Olt]

Greetings all,

A student of mine ordered an F tuba from this gentleman well over a year ago and sent him the money up front. After much cajoling he has so far paid back a portion of the money. Problem is, once he paid a portion, he stopped replying to any messages from my student, and has not made any contact since. In order to assist my student I loaned him the difference so he could make a purchase of another instrument. At this point, I no longer believe that we will ever see the money again. I hate the idea of making my student pay me back based on the behavior of a supposed professional businessman, but considering the amount (over $600) I cannot just write it off as a gift to the student. It really disturbs me that this person would do this to college students (not that it is any better with pros, but at least we can absorb the costs a little easier).

TO

[eupher61]

Fortunately, I haven't tried to buy anything from him. But, there is absolutely no excuse for not communicating. None.Even just to say "bear with me, I'm working on getting things right for you." And, repeating that every couple of months. I can understand having business problems, I can't understand screwing your customers over.

[Alex C]

I have been in this situation and can tell you, things are not going to go well for the people who have paid for instruments. All of the signs point to a situation that has gotten out of control of the person in charge.

From my experience, there are two options.

1) If a credit card was used, you should immediately get in touch with the credit card company and tell them what has happened. Ask for a refund, chances for recovery of your money is good with a credit card. A debit card carries a little less weight but you should still try.

2) If you paid by check, your only recourse is through an attorney. I am sorry to say that the chances of recovering any money is poor. A civil complaint could be filed but a criminal complaint would get his attention quicker. The local District Attorney in the town where Big Bottom Music is located is the person to contact for a criminal complaint.

Some brave soul might want to track down the physical location of the owner and try a personal appeal. You might at least get a few leftover instruments out of the deal.

It' a sad situation and I'm sure the owner feels terrible but has no clue how to recover. He should take down the website.

I had to file a lawsuit and I spent a ton of money but got my money back. It was a reputable dealer, too, so it can happen to anybody.

[Wyvern]

Back in June, Al did sent me a substantial list of all the outstanding orders, asking what Wessex Tubas could deliver. Since then he has paid us for a couple of orders (I have been in contact with those customers direct) and said he was going to order the rest direct from the factories. I have no idea if that has happened, or is happening, but even if it is(???), from order to delivery is usually about 4 months, so some wait yet.

I agree it is unforgivable to not reply to customers to update them on the situation.

I would add that I have nothing to do with this apart from trying to help people out for the sake of good-will.

[sousaphone68]

Bloke I am unable to work out how your comment is relevant to the situation that fellow board members find themselves in.
And it does not warrant a HaHaHa either.
How about deleting it?

[The Big Ben]

bloke has a big stick leaning against the wall in his shop. It has "Big Stirring Stick" written on it. Keep that in mind.

[sousaphone68]

We all enjoy bloke's stirring stick from time to time but on this occasion this was not the thread to stir in.
I can assume that most of the people left with no tuba and no refund travelled the same tortuous route to buying a tuba that I did.
Most of us buy our tubas after a period of saving,looking and negotiating with our families.
To have got to the point of buying and paying for a tuba and then to not get it is a nightmare not an opportunity to stir.

[PMeuph]

'might be worth considering....

http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/resou ... o_jury.scc" target="_blank

[sousaphone68]

bloke I dont think I was preaching or being holier than thou.
I was merely reminding you that there are on the forum people like me that do not regard their tuba as a commodity or a tool.
Your last post was a more honest and straight forward post.

[sousaphone68]

Bloke I am unable to work out how your comment is relevant to the situation that fellow board members find themselves in.
And it does not warrant a HaHaHa either.
How about deleting it?

You could not be more incorrect, sir. I think you completely missed Joe's point. And this situation is shameful. This guy is a scumbag and a criminal who is quickly earning the jail time he might see from this.

This entire topic reeks. Joe is 100% correct. You are not.

blokes post was not clear at all as to who the Paf comment was aimed at and did not help any one.
The delete suggestion was not to help Al but in deference to those that are still waiting.

[Dan Schultz]

This forum makes for a great education! You guys keep making me run for the 'urban dictionary'. Never head of 'FAP' before.

[Wyvern]

This forum makes for a great education! You guys keep making me run for the 'urban dictionary'. Never head of 'FAP' before.

Made me look too - and I still do not understand the relevance

[PMeuph]

This forum makes for a great education! You guys keep making me run for the 'urban dictionary'. Never head of 'FAP' before.

Made me look too - and I still do not understand the relevance

Look at definition #4....