You may also look at this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/F-E-Olds-and-Son-BB ... dZViewItem
I played on one of these in High School. The one I played on was a Reynolds, but these are the same horn as they merged in the 60's. I thought that this had a nice sound and is actually on my list of horns that I want to accuire. I want one with a recording bell, but I played both versions. This is a 4 valve horn and is certainly within your budget. This also comes with two cases and that may be a plus for a student. I would strongly recomend this or a real horn as apposed to one of the Asian imports. Used Meinl Westons 25's, Miraphone 186's are hard to beat, There are also some MW 20's that show up from time to time. Almost the same as the 25 but with a smaller bell. Anyone else have any experience with these Olds horns?
Steve
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Thought I'd posted the results of the trip, but can't find it.
Took my son to Baltimore on the 23rd of Dec. At Baltimore Brass he got to tryout a Conn 5J, a new King 2341, an old recording bell King 2341 (former Navy Band Director tuba), and their Symphonique 5 valve BBb advertised on their website. I liked the idea of the 5 valve Symphonique which was at the upper end of my range (after conceptual trade-in), Michael liked the old 2341. He said that he thought he got a "rounder sound" out of it.
We then went to the Brass Arts and he spent some time with the King 1241. He allowed that it played great. Only a couple of dents, and a few odd scratches in the bell. No trade in available there as they are mostly a french horn and similar horns. Will be talking further with Mark Thiele next month, and waiting for the Ft Myer tuba event.
Appreaciate all the thoughts, recommendations, and assistance.
Took my son to Baltimore on the 23rd of Dec. At Baltimore Brass he got to tryout a Conn 5J, a new King 2341, an old recording bell King 2341 (former Navy Band Director tuba), and their Symphonique 5 valve BBb advertised on their website. I liked the idea of the 5 valve Symphonique which was at the upper end of my range (after conceptual trade-in), Michael liked the old 2341. He said that he thought he got a "rounder sound" out of it.
We then went to the Brass Arts and he spent some time with the King 1241. He allowed that it played great. Only a couple of dents, and a few odd scratches in the bell. No trade in available there as they are mostly a french horn and similar horns. Will be talking further with Mark Thiele next month, and waiting for the Ft Myer tuba event.
Appreaciate all the thoughts, recommendations, and assistance.
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If you can tolerate B-flat, I just saw where WWBW has a new B-stock Allora 186 for $1699.Appreaciate all the thoughts, recommendations, and assistance.
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