A euphonium like I've never seen.

[LoyalTubist]

Your name doesn't bother me. When I was stationed in West Berlin with the 298th Army Band, one of the main shopping streets of West Berlin was, in fact, Karl Marx Strasse.

I imagine some people here think me to be a Communist, too.

[OldsRecording]

Karl,

If that is your real name, please ignore this post. If not, what would make you choose KarlMarx as a name on this forum?
In case you were not informed, the Berlin Wall fell in the year 1989, ending the era of Soviet repression/opression constructed by one of the most hideous notions of equality known as communism, which of course was authored by the infamous Karl Marx. Without casting judgement, we are all interested to know who and what motivates a tuba player who reveres Karl Marx?

Phil Taylor

Easy, Phil. I could go into a dissertation about how Marx had nothing to do with Soviet-style Communism, and how Marxism (on paper, at least) is a perfect form of government that suffered from the fatal flaw of any government, that it is put into practice by actual human beings (who unfortunately , like to be better than other human beings), but I won't. I mean, if he used the moniker 'JosefStalin' or 'VladimirIlyichUlianov' (better known to the world as 'Lenin') or even 'CheGuevarra' (the Bolivian guerilla leader) that would be disturbing, but there's no need to pick on ol' Marxie for a political theory.

[Mojo workin']

Marx had nothing to do with Soviet-style Communism

?

Please explain.

[windshieldbug]

Marx had nothing to do with Soviet-style Communism

?

Please explain.

Groucho.

[OldsRecording]

Marx had nothing to do with Soviet-style Communism

?

Please explain.

I know there is a tendancy to lump Marxism, Socialism and Soviet-Style Comunism all together into one basket, but there is a big difference. You see, the Soviet system bore very little resemblance to Marx's original concept. Stalin had a feet of Rolls-Royces, for God's sake. Far from being Marx's workers' paradise, the Soviet Union became a bloated burocracy where those with clout became rich and powerful and those without were every bit as poor and downtrodden as they had been under the Czar. If Marx had witnessed this, his reaction would have been something like: .

[BopEuph]

I know there is a tendancy to lump Marxism, Socialism and Soviet-Style Comunism all together into one basket, but there is a big difference. You see, the Soviet system bore very little resemblance to Marx's original concept. Stalin had a feet of Rolls-Royces, for God's sake. Far from being Marx's workers' paradise, the Soviet Union became a bloated burocracy where those with clout became rich and powerful and those without were every bit as poor and downtrodden as they had been under the Czar. If Marx had witnessed this, his reaction would have been something like: .

At least there are SOME of us Americans out there who at least know something about Marx. I was wondering if anyone was going to defend Marx over the mistaken identity most Americans give him. Why is he so ill-favored? Because the Soviet Union was using communism, and they were our enemy. Why is the notion of equality hideous? Many societies are trying to come up with the fairest way to give equal rights to everybody (read the Declaration of Independence). USSR and China have just molded it more into an efficient way to control their people.

Besides, even though this isn't in the off-topic forum, I don't think Mr. Chisham would appreciate us discussing politics.

Back on the subject (I really wish more topics really would stay on topic on Tubenet), I saw this horn a while back. It looks like the slides don't pull out. Maybe they are just the flush. I'd like to try one out, and see if the horn and I become one, like the description of it says, and see how unbelievable it really is. It better make a believer out of me, if they want me to pay that much money for a euphonium!

Nick

[OldsRecording]

I know there is a tendancy to lump Marxism, Socialism and Soviet-Style Comunism all together into one basket, but there is a big difference. You see, the Soviet system bore very little resemblance to Marx's original concept. Stalin had a feet of Rolls-Royces, for God's sake. Far from being Marx's workers' paradise, the Soviet Union became a bloated burocracy where those with clout became rich and powerful and those without were every bit as poor and downtrodden as they had been under the Czar. If Marx had witnessed this, his reaction would have been something like: .

At least there are SOME of us Americans out there who at least know something about Marx. I was wondering if anyone was going to defend Marx over the mistaken identity most Americans give him. Why is he so ill-favored? Because the Soviet Union was using communism, and they were our enemy. Why is the notion of equality hideous? Many societies are trying to come up with the fairest way to give equal rights to everybody (read the Declaration of Independence). USSR and China have just molded it more into an efficient way to control their people.

Besides, even though this isn't in the off-topic forum, I don't think Mr. Chisham would appreciate us discussing politics.

Back on the subject (I really wish more topics really would stay on topic on Tubenet), I saw this horn a while back. It looks like the slides don't pull out. Maybe they are just the flush. I'd like to try one out, and see if the horn and I become one, like the description of it says, and see how unbelievable it really is. It better make a believer out of me, if they want me to pay that much money for a euphonium!

Nick

Oh, alright. Although I dig discussing Marx and The Worker's Control of the Means of Production, this is not the place for it. I do have a theory about how 'The Little Engine that Could' is an allegory for socialism, but that's neither here nor there.

[windshieldbug]

OK, time for food in this thread!...

[MaryAnn]

Yes, we have descended into politicks....and I'm surprised the thread hasn't been locked.

But, Dat Said....those of us who know who "KarlMarx" really is, are not entirely clueless as to why he is posting under that name.

Nuf Said.

MA