Help: Student Loan to buy horn...?

[SplatterTone]

I dealt with the money problem by getting one of those tubas that come with a kitchenette and shower stall. That way I can just live in my tuba: no rent or mortgage to pay. Just look for a tuba parked at your local KOA campground.

[Captain Sousie]

Gotta love those threads dredged up from 2004. They seem to travel in packs.

Good idea bloke.

Sou

[Tubaguy56]

whoa there, lets stop for a minute.

If we look back to the FIRST post, nowhere does it say that he isn't working, just that he is considering using extra student loan money to buy a tuba. This ties in with tubaphore's post. You DON'T know this person's schedule, you have no clue what this person does, you don't know how much money his parents has, how much he makes, what he does, or a whole bunch of other things that the readers of tubenet have not taken into consideration, AND, if he is a tuba performance major then it WOULD make sense for him to have a tuba earlier on so he WOULD have a better chance to get a job. sure, he saved up for a tuba and now he has no clue how to use it, great!

Also, especially in a major like tuba performance where the degree doesn't really mean anything, you want to come away from college having LEARNED something, this requires countless hours practicing, studying, listening, etc. and alot of that is lost in having a job while at college.

Not to say your opinion is wrong, I just think that being as offensive (not as in something I find politically incorrect, but in the sense of attacking) as this previous post may have been a step too far.

Bo "has a job, is getting student loans, and is a tuba performance major" Atlas

[Jedi Master]

Since this thread is several years old, I wonder how things actually worked out, for the original poster......?

[LoyalTubist]

While this may seem rude, I have done many jobs in my half century. One of the CVs I used to get work here in Vietnam listed every job I had (that lasted more than a month--we won't talk about the job I had working for a feed store).

Eighteen is considered adult. Adults need to earn money. Loans will be paid by money you will never see. If you work while you are in college, you might get a better job--if your dreams of a musical career don't work out!

I don't consider being a student a job unless it pays me. The only time that ever happened for me was when I was at the Armed Forces School of Music, but then my title was Soldier.

[TubaRay]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Bill, but I believe you were paid to be a student at the Armed Forces School of Music.

I also spent some time there. Looking back, that was probably the easiest job I ever had in my life. Primarily, I played in 2-3 bands per day(an hour each) and practiced as much as I wanted. I had iron chops thanks to that. I lived off post and went home at the end of the school day. My level of responsibility was extremely simple. Of course, there were the few times I had had to walk up and down the third floor hall making certain that no terrorists or other bad people threatened our student way of life, but being the strong man that I was, I could handle that. The pay wasn't particularly good, but I was paid to be a student.

It seems to me that in this thread we have been arguing over not much of anything. How one chooses to fund college should probably be their own business. Personally, I don't favor the government doing it, but that's just my own opinion. Whether one wishes to call college a job or not is just a matter of one's choice of words. It may not be their job, but it is their responsibility. This is much like a job, anway. I'm not sure why some have chosen to make this such a combative thread. Surely there are more important things to argue about(or at least more interesting). And, yes Bug, I know I shouldn't call you Shirley.

[lgb&dtuba]

Surely there are more important things to argue about(or at least more interesting).

Yeah, like is cork or neoprene a better material for spit valves?

Haven't decided if resurrecting this thread was a stealth troll or just stupidity.

Jim "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Wagner

[The Big Ben]

Surely there are more important things to argue about(or at least more interesting).

Yeah, like is cork or neoprene a better material for spit valves?

Cork. Definitely cork.

Jeff "But I Usually Just Pull The Slide" Benedict

[windshieldbug]

And, yes Bug, I know I shouldn't call you Shirley.

As long as we're clear...

[RyanSchultz]

Many of us used a program called the Perkins Loan program to buy our first tuba. It is my understanding that Perkins loans have all but been eliminated. To qualify for a Stafford you will probably have to get your teacher to write a note to the financial aid office stating why you have to have this tuba to complete your degree.

Good luck.

[Rick Denney]

Hope it pays the bills, lazy-***...

Just when I think Tubenet has lost the colorfulness that made it great in the first place, a Guy (who used to be) in California comes back to remind us of it.

Rick "wondering if the Albatross tuba will be piston or rotary" Denney

[windshieldbug]

Just when I think Tubenet has lost the colorfulness that made it great in the first place

Would that be a sharp key or a flat key?

[Rick Denney]

Just when I think Tubenet has lost the colorfulness that made it great in the first place

Would that be a sharp key or a flat key?

As that Guy in California used to say, sometimes you have to be sharp to come to a point.

Rick "asked and answered" Denney

[Rick Denney]

S"his reference is lost on this dull point, but I still think it's funny"T

Maybe it was the deliverance.

Rick "flying low today" Denney

[LoyalTubist]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Bill, but I believe you were paid to be a student at the Armed Forces School of Music.

I said this in my last paragraph...

I don't consider being a student a job unless it pays me. The only time that ever happened for me was when I was at the Armed Forces School of Music, but then my title was Soldier.

This is a little different than being a college student. I already had the job and this was more training. It's much different now than when I went through it 28 years ago. They now have drill sergeants and do bivouac. Three hours a day are spent doing military and weapons training--I think, in my six months at the school, we had three hours of military training through the whole course. (That's why I decided to stay at the school for the entire course instead of opt out early.)

When I was discharged from the Army, I drove across the country and registered for college the day I arrived. I also put in for employment. I had a pregnant wife and a full-time schedule as an undergraduate music major. I worked three jobs--playing tuba, maintenance person at a Mercedes-Benz dealership, and minister of music at a small Baptist church. When school musical organizations went on tour, it was really hard on the family. I would ask to work extra hours at the car dealership the week before and after a tour.

This was my second time in college--the first time I depended on my parents and loans. The second time i got the loans, I had veteran's benefits, I had the biggest music scholarship the college had, and I had three jobs. And my grades were better the second time, too.

I always regret that I didn't join the Army first, then go to college. I wouldn't have wasted the first four years doing nothing but wasting money.