My B & M-built Marzans (both piston and slant-rotor) are a dab over .750".imperialbari wrote:This one hardly has the 0.750 bore that Rick’s and mine have, The only other BBb bore I have seen from B&M is 0.689. ....
What did I buy? "Horn dorn... new pictures"
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... new pictures"
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... new pictures"
Just looked for the name in the Langwill Index...Says it's a Selmer Stencil...More Specifically, here's how Langwill's index puts it:
Manhattan Trade name.
Employed by H. & A. Selmer
Manhattan Trade name.
Employed by H. & A. Selmer
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... new pictures"
I have Kevin's horn here in the shop for a little work. I'm still puzzled over the origin of this horn. Some of the ferrules look 'King-ish' and 'Marzan-ish'. The pistons are 1.006" (25.5mm) diameter... and the bore is .727" (18.5mm). The pistons are marked 4, 5, & 6 as are the casings... typical of how European valve assemblies are batch-numbered. The pistons have stainless steel shells with brass ports, top caps, and bottoms. I don't know exactly what this horn is but I am confident that it's European. Maybe Czech or Russian. Dunno.
Dan Schultz
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... new pictures"
Bingo! I just found a small stamp on the bell collar. Didn't notice it for so long because of the tarnish and bell being in the way. SO it is Czech. Another mystery solved thanks to this meddling kid!TubaTinker wrote:I don't know exactly what this horn is but I am confident that it's European. Maybe Czech or Russian. Dunno.
Kevin Specht
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... new pictures"
Hi, I actually bought this horn in 2009 as I was renting one during the school year and needed something during the summer for a couple months. I've since gotten my own C tuba and I'm looking to sell this one. I'd rather not as it's so 'interesting' but I really need a new bass bone. I'm planning on putting it on ebay or craigslist, what exactly would you all recommend I put in the description? I know it's a Czech Bb bell-front tuba with 3 piston valves and has the Manhattan stamp with the NYC skyline on the detachable bell. Looking through this thread I wasn't sure if there was ever a conclusion in terms of make, model and year. I asked a few people around town and they weren't too sure either. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... kinda... not really"
The B&M I had used yellow brass on both the inner and outer slides.Rick Denney wrote:
The buttons could be B&M, and the braces are about right. The general proportion of the tuba seems about right. But the B&M's I've seen had nickel outer slides, and mine sure does not have the rolled edges on the outer slides that I see here.
Rick "wondering if Carl Fischer had a budget brand during the time they owned York" Denney
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Re: What did I buy? "Horn dorn... kinda... not really"
LOL, I literally "laughed out loud" on that...Thanks Marty...MartyNeilan wrote:Marty "having a BM right now"

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King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.