I had the same thought, but Jupiter labels it as a 5/4, so I'll honor their opinion.tuben wrote:5/4? Really? Looks thin in the bottom area for that....Mcordon1 wrote:Here she is...
(My 188 looks bigger)
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
(My 188 looks bigger)
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
As far as I know, there are no ANSI or ISO standards for the "x/4 system" (see "Rudolf Meinl") ...tuben wrote:Personally.... I thought their 4/4 played more like a 7/8 tuba... (not that big for my tastes)Mcordon1 wrote:I had the same thought, but Jupiter labels it as a 5/4, so I'll honor their opinion.tuben wrote:
5/4? Really? Looks thin in the bottom area for that....
(My 188 looks bigger)
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
I've played two prototypes of this horn, one last spring and one last fall. The first one never saw the light of day but the latest incarnation is definitely in the large 4/4 to 5/4 range. It played well but still needed improvements. Jupiter was experipenting with some square slides, but I guess they've decided against that.
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
From the latest Jupiter catalog...
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
Not what I'd call a 5/4, especially due to the bottom bow and more tapered throat.
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
[quote]Postby Weaponofchoice » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:05 am
I've played two prototypes of this horn, one last spring and one last fall. The first one never saw the light of day but the latest incarnation is definitely in the large 4/4 to 5/4 range. It played well but still needed improvements. Jupiter was experipenting with some square slides, but I guess they've decided against that.[quote]
At the NAMM show, Sam Pilafian demonstrated a rounded tuning slide and square one in front of myself and Steve Ferguson asking for opinions of the overall change in tone quality. They're not done with the tweaking and possibly using some square slides.
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I've played two prototypes of this horn, one last spring and one last fall. The first one never saw the light of day but the latest incarnation is definitely in the large 4/4 to 5/4 range. It played well but still needed improvements. Jupiter was experipenting with some square slides, but I guess they've decided against that.[quote]
At the NAMM show, Sam Pilafian demonstrated a rounded tuning slide and square one in front of myself and Steve Ferguson asking for opinions of the overall change in tone quality. They're not done with the tweaking and possibly using some square slides.
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Re: Jupiter 5/4?
I understand and greatly appreciate graduated bore as applied through a rotary valveset (around .08" from top to bottom on my Neptune). But how does one obtain a significant increase on piston valves between 1 and 4 without it looking and feeling weird? Isn't this more a matter of stepping up the bore from 4th (piston) to 5th (rotor)? What am I missing here?
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