A couple of questions for our professional colleagues: 1) What would be your criteria for assessing a "knock-off" (or a "reproduction"...is there a difference?) and if it met your criteria, would you recommend it to your students?; 2) In your opinion, is it fair to compare a knock-off to the original and have the expectation that it will perform as well or even close to the original?Sylvano wrote: Pros playing knock-offs:
In order to get a job in a major orchestra you need to be a God. If you'd be that good of a lawyer, you'd be making more than 10X the salary of a tuba God.
To get a job with a smaller or "per service" orchestra, you still need to have skills that have cost you personally and financially in order to get that job. Let's say you need to be a "Saint". These gigs pay less than your average plumbing jobs and I don't see plumbers with a basement full of $7,000 to $21,000 tools. It's not what you play but how you play that counts. I have no shame about having one of those knock-offs in my arsenal.
Schiller
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Re: Schiller
Jerry Johnson
Wessex Kaiser BBb aka "Willie"
Wessex Luzern BBb aka "Otto"
Lone Star Symphonic Band
The Prevailing Winds
Wessex Kaiser BBb aka "Willie"
Wessex Luzern BBb aka "Otto"
Lone Star Symphonic Band
The Prevailing Winds
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Sylvano
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Re: Schiller
I just received the Schiller 5v C.
It's amazing.
Very nice sound, construction and it plays very well. No bad notes. It looks like a Miraphone 186.
I paid $785 case (and mp) included.
The bell is damaged but it will roll out nicely.
It blows better than the Bb Schiller-brunner and now I really have to think of selling something.
That's the part I hate.
I'm reluctant to sell my Rudy 4/4 because it really plays like / is a 5/4 and there are these concerts where I need the volume without the barking.
The PT20P is still the most clean and versatile horn.
What to sell?
It's amazing.
Very nice sound, construction and it plays very well. No bad notes. It looks like a Miraphone 186.
I paid $785 case (and mp) included.
The bell is damaged but it will roll out nicely.
It blows better than the Bb Schiller-brunner and now I really have to think of selling something.
That's the part I hate.
I'm reluctant to sell my Rudy 4/4 because it really plays like / is a 5/4 and there are these concerts where I need the volume without the barking.
The PT20P is still the most clean and versatile horn.
What to sell?
Sylvain Gagnon
Kingston, Ontario
Principal Tuba Kingston Symphony
Music Director, Communications & Electronics Garrison Military Band
Kingston, Ontario
Principal Tuba Kingston Symphony
Music Director, Communications & Electronics Garrison Military Band