"Tone rings" in the bells of larger horns.
The "Presta Link System" valves.
With the kelly mouthpiece controversy - I use a Kellyberg when I need a lot of fundamental in the low register - say in Brass Band. The high overtones go away and the bottom frequencies tend to be more dominant. That is the only time I'll use one as I prefer a sound with more color in it. This has just been MY experience with them.
Plus, I played a Civil War band gig on Saturday and this F tuba was mine for the concert. it plays GREAT even though it was made in about 1860.
Roger
"The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S Thompson
Roger Lewis wrote:Plus, I played a Civil War band gig on Saturday and this F tuba was mine for the concert. it plays GREAT even though it was made in about 1860.
Roger
This one deserves an ID and more photos if at all possible.
Roger Lewis wrote:With the kelly mouthpiece controversy - I use a Kellyberg when I need a lot of fundamental in the low register - say in Brass Band. The high overtones go away and the bottom frequencies tend to be more dominant. That is the only time I'll use one as I prefer a sound with more color in it. This has just been MY experience with them.
Roger, the big question than would be. What color is your Kellyberg?
Roger Lewis wrote:With the kelly mouthpiece controversy - I use a Kellyberg when I need a lot of fundamental in the low register - say in Brass Band. The high overtones go away and the bottom frequencies tend to be more dominant. That is the only time I'll use one as I prefer a sound with more color in it. This has just been MY experience with them.
Roger, the big question than would be. What color is your Kellyberg?
HAHAHA
How else would we know what color the sound has in it?
Roger Lewis wrote:
With the kelly mouthpiece controversy - I use a Kellyberg when I need a lot of fundamental in the low register - say in Brass Band. The high overtones go away and the bottom frequencies tend to be more dominant. That is the only time I'll use one as I prefer a sound with more color in it. This has just been MY experience with them.
Would you recommend these to young developing players or to any player for that matter?
Jerry Johnson
Wessex Kaiser BBb aka "Willie"
Wessex Luzern BBb aka "Otto"
Lone Star Symphonic Band
The Prevailing Winds
The color of my Kellyberg is "Blew". No, I would not recommend these for students - only for those people who have to play outdoors in less than optimal weather conditions. I might recommend it for a student who has a tendency to drop things a lot. Since the funnel shape of the Kellyberg move air almost too efficiently, I would probably go with the Bach 18 or 22 copy.
Just my 2........2.........2........where the hell is the cent key?????
$0.02
Roger
"The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S Thompson
I routinely use my Kellyberg in concerts... Glow in the Dark comes in very useful at the annual Star Trek Convention here in Vegas. I sold mine but I am going to get a new one before that concert happens again ... I used my kellyberg in the orchestra playing very heavy literature and no one had any comments about my sound or volume or anything. Is steel better than plastic ... yes... does it affect your sound so much that you have issues playing loud enough or with enough core... not if you are a good player ... does it negatively affect a student player ... not any more than playing on any other helleberg I think. Of course I wonder how anyone could say that a helleberg is going to hurt a young player!
Kalison K2001
Norwegian Star
JinBoa F Cimbasso
Giddings and Webster 4 life
Roger Lewis wrote:The color of my Kellyberg is "Blew". No, I would not recommend these for students - only for those people who have to play outdoors in less than optimal weather conditions. I might recommend it for a student who has a tendency to drop things a lot. Since the funnel shape of the Kellyberg move air almost too efficiently, I would probably go with the Bach 18 or 22 copy.
Just my 2........2.........2........where the hell is the cent key?????
$0.02
Roger
Roger... did you say that you WOULD NOT recommend the Kellyberg for student use because it is plastic? .... or because of the funnel shape?
The Kelly mouthpieces are available in a copy of the Bach 18. Would this, in your opinion, be acceptable?
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker" http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
Kevin Hendrick wrote:Note the wording -- "damage-resistant", not "damage-proof" (there is a difference) ...
True, but you have no idea if that "blew" 'piece even resisted at all...
Well, no definitive proof, no. Sure looks like multiple sets of plier-jaw (or vise-jaw) marks, though. If one is that determined to test-to-destruction, even titanium isn't damage-proof ...
"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent." -- Pogo (via Walt Kelly)
A fad that totally truly sucks and wish would go away for GOOD: Directors allowing the bass trombone player to play a tuba part in the tuba's register. Yes there may be some players who can pull it off, but generally speaking, they sound terrible in that register and the ensemble suffers for it.
JJ
Jerry Johnson
Wessex Kaiser BBb aka "Willie"
Wessex Luzern BBb aka "Otto"
Lone Star Symphonic Band
The Prevailing Winds
Roger Lewis wrote:Plus, I played a Civil War band gig on Saturday and this F tuba was mine for the concert. it plays GREAT even though it was made in about 1860.
When I lived in Dallas, I played in the Heritage Brass, and I would have seriously coveted an instrument like this one. They kept trying to get me to play some leaky over-the-shoulder 3-valve Eb saxhorn that seemed to me basically unplayable, not to mention me being too lazy to learn Eb fingerings. This would have solved everyone's problems, except my wallet's.
Rick "who used a shiny, new-looking Yamaha and claimed that the musicians of the day weren't playing 130-year-old instruments" Denney
Wade, one of the Kellybergs I bought about 8 months ago did not have that "step" in the middle. I bought two at the same time and, stangely, one did have it and the other was smooth. Perhaps it is only for certain colors? Or maybe the smooth one is of an older design, and stock was just left over (or maybe it's the other way around)?
