So more or less the 50th is just a standard jumbo (more or less) with a ridiculous bell?
So, assuming you could find someone to make a 36in bell......you could essentially replicate this (intricate engraving aside)?
jc
MrBasseyPants - jc
My three Kings: 2007 King 2341 | 1935 King Giant 1271 | 1925 King 1265 Jumbo (now with four valves)
...and a 1920s Columbia Tenor Sousaphone
WARNING: This tuba player has been known to get his groove on via bass guitar as well!
I'm going to Germany this fall....shall I pick one up for you?
I am afraid to know how much a custom 36in or even a 32in bell would cost.
jc
KiltieTuba wrote:
MrBasseyPants wrote:So more or less the 50th is just a standard jumbo (more or less) with a ridiculous bell?
So, assuming you could find someone to make a 36in bell......you could essentially replicate this (intricate engraving aside)?
jc
Yea, the 50th is just a heavily customized 48K - and Conn did offer bells up to 36-inches on the jumbo model. I even know a small German shop that would be more than willing to make the 36-inch bell as long as I provide the angle of the curve of the bell!
MrBasseyPants - jc
My three Kings: 2007 King 2341 | 1935 King Giant 1271 | 1925 King 1265 Jumbo (now with four valves)
...and a 1920s Columbia Tenor Sousaphone
WARNING: This tuba player has been known to get his groove on via bass guitar as well!
KiltieTuba wrote:One interesting tid bit that I discovered was that my top and bottom valve caps were switched at one point - the MOP on the caps should go on the top of the valve, not the bottom as it makes more sense to actually see these pearls!
mammoth2ba's Jumbo, which has been playing two concerts per week this summer, has mother of pearl inserts in the bottom valve caps.
Nice to read that kiltie is apparently the second Jumbo player to perform in the ranks of Scottville Clown Band!
mammoth2ba wrote:.... mammoth2ba's Jumbo, which has been playing two concerts per week this summer, has mother of pearl inserts in the bottom valve caps....
Mine too! 'cept my Jumbo has FOUR of those pearl bottom caps.
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker" http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
mammoth2ba wrote:.... mammoth2ba's Jumbo, which has been playing two concerts per week this summer, has mother of pearl inserts in the bottom valve caps....
Mine too! 'cept my Jumbo has FOUR of those pearl bottom caps.
OK, you guys made me look. Although the valve buttons have mother of pearl tops (thanks, in part, to Lee Stofer for replacing missing ones when he overhauled my 48K), the upper and lower valve caps are merely silver-plated brass.
I've seen mother-of-pearl inserts on the bottom caps of early Conn euphoniums ... not that they would come close to fitting a sousa. Just sayin'.
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker" http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
KiltieTuba wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkCZlJbj82g" target="_blank
Not much for playing - couldn't oil valves. It sounds a lot like any other Jumbo, except the bell tends to ring a bit more...Kinda like my old King Giant.
Does it ring more or less than your Conn Jumbo? Do those rings on the bell make any difference?
Good point, Brown Mule. Dealing with standard size doorways and ceiling heights with the 28" bell on my Jumbo is enough of a challenge; the 28" bell just fits through nicely and nestles in the passenger seat of my fairly small sedan. If it were the 30" bell of the Buescher, the 32" bell of the King, or the 36" bell of the Conn 50th, one might have to defy the laws of physics to get it in and out of some places. (not).
KiltieTuba wrote:
It rings more than the standard 28", which doesn't really ring at all. If I could compare it, it sounds like a modern sousaphone. The bell is pretty thin, but that might be due to the extreme diameter and hopeful reduction of weight. The regular 28" bell sounds more like a tuba, like a big 6/4 tuba, but still pretty nimble.
The rings? No idea, seeing as how it's the only sousaphone with those rings that I know of. I'm sure they do something, maybe just for reinforcement to strengthen the huge diameter, but for sound?... That's anyone's guess.
That has to be the most sensible, honest answer I HAVE EVER READ on Tubenet.
