teaching practices - is this normal?!

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Captain Sousie wrote:Heresy!! How dare you use Dalcroze in the modern music world. It should be Orff/Koday or nothing.

Just kidding :P
Especially for those who sell all those neat Orff instruments. :)

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I'm sure that others have wondered about the wisdom of handing a fifth grade student a trumpet or tuba or clarinet before he or she has had any real exposure to musical performance and written music.

Why not a year or two of choral singing and maybe a little keyboard work first?

Silly me--actually, yoiu're right. Dalcroze is ridiculous--imagine, a method based on dance, solfege and improvisation. How quaint!
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Chuck(G) wrote:
Captain Sousie wrote:Heresy!! How dare you use Dalcroze in the modern music world. It should be Orff/Koday or nothing.

Just kidding :P
Especially for those who sell all those neat Orff instruments. :)

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I'm sure that others have wondered about the wisdom of handing a fifth grade student a trumpet or tuba or clarinet before he or she has had any real exposure to musical performance and written music.

Why not a year or two of choral singing and maybe a little keyboard work first?

Silly me--actually, yoiu're right. Dalcroze is ridiculous--imagine, a method based on dance, solfege and improvisation. How quaint!
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My point exactly. Why hand them a $250 trumpet when you can hand them a $1200 Orff Bass Xylophone. :)

But seriously folks. I agree that sometimes students are started on instruments without enough, or any in some cases, preparation. On the other hand, there are string teachers who firmly believe that a student cannot learn an instrument if they are not started by the fourth grade. Some even go so far as to not allow a student to start an instrument in their program after fifth grade. I have met some of these people so I am not just making this up.

Try that one,
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Captain Sousie wrote:But seriously folks. I agree that sometimes students are started on instruments without enough, or any in some cases, preparation. On the other hand, there are string teachers who firmly believe that a student cannot learn an instrument if they are not started by the fourth grade. Some even go so far as to not allow a student to start an instrument in their program after fifth grade. I have met some of these people so I am not just making this up.
Sure, I believe you, particularly if the objective is to eventually produce a professional performer, particularly on strings.

But if all of the elementary, middle and high-school music programs were to disappear overnight and all of the universities were to shut down their performance programs, we'd still have enough instrumentalists to satisfy professional performance positions. You simply can't keep some folks from developing a love of musical performance. Those people will already have begun playing by the time they can hold a 1/4 sized instrument.

What you wouldn't have, though, is audiences for the performers.

So, is the point of public school musical education to develop an appreciation of music or to train students to become performers?

I realize that in some states (such as Texas), competition is a big deal and the objectives of the program may not necessarily have much to do with either.
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