What's the difference between a Conn 20k and a 14k

[iiipopes]

Model 14K was also sold as "Pan American" as well as "stencils" (music store brands). The braces on the 14K are light and - well - cheap.
Arguably, it was a "student" model.
The identically-sized "professional" model (heavy bracing, m.o.p. inlaid in bottom caps, etc...) was the model 32K.

Same horn, as another take on "student model" was the Conn Cavalier, from @ 1936-1938.

[Kirley]

During the Elkhart years, in addition to the 14K Director model, you could get the same instrument with the fancy ferrules and braces, and this was the Conn 10K Artist sousaphone. I have also owned and played on a Conn 32K sousaphone from about 1941, that seemed to possibly be even a little smaller in body than the 10K/14K, but I never did a side-by-side comparison.

Lee, is it possible you have those 2 models (10K and 32K) reversed?

It is my understanding that the 32K is the same size as the 14K but fancier. Also, I think production of that horn didn't last all that long.

And I thought the 10K was more of a "Junior" size, smaller branches and bell collar.

Here is one listed on eBay right now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-10K-Sousa ... 3989932464" target="_blank

I could most certainly be wrong. It happens. At least daily.

[oscarcahue]

During the Elkhart years, in addition to the 14K Director model, you could get the same instrument with the fancy ferrules and braces, and this was the Conn 10K Artist sousaphone. I have also owned and played on a Conn 32K sousaphone from about 1941, that seemed to possibly be even a little smaller in body than the 10K/14K, but I never did a side-by-side comparison.

Lee, is it possible you have those 2 models (10K and 32K) reversed?

It is my understanding that the 32K is the same size as the 14K but fancier. Also, I think production of that horn didn't last all that long.

And I thought the 10K was more of a "Junior" size, smaller branches and bell collar.

Here is one listed on eBay right now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-10K-Sousa ... 3989932464" target="_blank" target="_blank

I could most certainly be wrong. It happens. At least daily.

Wow! First time I see a 10k for sale! It does look just like the 32K.
I can't tell if it is smaller. If it is, that's a great price and rarity.

If anyone has links to details on the Conn 10K, please share!

[tubaben]

The Conn 10K listing on Ebay is mine. I could very well be wrong on the model number, and I would appreciate it if anyone can correct me on it.

I based my identification of off the recognition guide on the Conn Loyalist website here:

https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnSousaModels.html" target="_blank" target="_blank


Between the year of manufacture and the 26 inch bell size, it certainly seems like it should be 10k, but now I am wondering if I'm wrong.

Anyone have any other clues I can look for and correct my listing?