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Tubaryan12 · Post by **Tubaryan12** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:10 pm

tubaman90 wrote:T4S?

bort · Post by **bort** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:18 pm

I think this is a solid plan. It may be best put into effect over the summer.

1) Get a job.
2) Don't spend your money on crap you don't need.
3) Don't eat out a lot.
4) Get made fun of a little bit by your friends for being cheap.
5) Be amazed at how much money you save.
6) Buy a good quality used horn.
7) Be happy with your new tuba, and realize how little steps 2-4 really matter.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:21 pm

tubaman90 wrote:i already have a job, and thanks to congress ill get paid more, ....

Are you speaking of the increase in the minimum wage!

SplatterTone · Post by **SplatterTone** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:05 pm

I can understand the desire to get the one true love right off. But may I suggest something like this one at Dillon to start with. You can always use a good 3/4 horn. There will be lots of times when a horn like this comes in handy. If this plays like the one I have tried from my son's school, it's a sweetie. If I didn't already have a good 3/4 horn, I would have bought this one.

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rascaljim · Post by **rascaljim** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:31 am

I wouldn't bother with shooting for a "last horn I'll ever need" tuba... From what I've seen, people pretty much never endup keeping the first C they bought in undergrad, especially those on the audition track. Tastes change, new designes come out... you may find one day that your playing now suits a different horn better then your "last tuba I'll ever need".

Even looking around on tubenet, a few different people have posted that they have bought and sold several horns within a few years.

My contrabass tuba history is like this: I had a Yamaha 641 Bb in highschool, then sold it and used a Cerveny Piggy C, then bought a Miraphone 186 C, then sold it and bought a MW2000, then bought a 2165.

2c
Jim Langenberg

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:37 pm

rascaljim hit it right on the head. First, you don't need money, you need a crystal ball. Then you need the earth to stop spinning.

So rather than the perfect horn, if I'd be you, I'd try to get a decent mouthpiece for NOW, which is infinitely more affordable.

Ryan_Beucke · Post by **Ryan_Beucke** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:11 pm

Similar to what the last couple people said...

There's nothing wrong with saving towards a nice horn, but don't get the end all one right now. Save up some money and get a decent used horn...something that plays well but might look a little ugly. You'll get most if not all of the money you paid for it back in a few years when you decide to get a new horn (as long as you treat it well), and you'll have a much better idea of what you'll want.

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:48 pm

Just make sure you DON'T do what this guy did to get what you want.

Robert Johnson
Blues musician and legendary friend of the Adversary, ×©Ö¸×‚×˜Ö¸×Ÿ,.

Captain Sousie · Post by **Captain Sousie** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:58 pm

duckskiff wrote:You should start selling stuff on ebay. Just junk. Get your relatives to give you their old crap to sell and watch the dollars add up. Those ebayers will bid on anything. Dried bread crusts, broken toys, Dr.Young tuba mouthpieces....

Souls too?

What thinkest thou DK ibn MSM?

tofu · Post by **tofu** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:39 pm

TexTuba · Post by **TexTuba** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:59 am

I got my CC on a student loan. I know I can pay that back, so it wasn't a big deal for me. Plus, the low interest and the amount of time to pay back is a plus for me. I know you're 16 so that really isn't an option. But it may become one when it's time for college. Good luck buddy!!

Ralph

fpoon · Post by **fpoon** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:14 am

I'm 22, and change my mind a lot everyday. I did that even more so when I was 16.

Tons upon tons of folks that enter college to do music end up switching to something else. I know I did.

If you have access to a decent Bb and Eb, just roll with them. Sure, having your own horn would be sweet, but its not worth not being able to live your youth the way you want to (as in, you need $ to do some fun stuff) just to get a horn.

tubaguy9 · Post by **tubaguy9** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:56 pm

I got a regular 4/4 tuba...CC...4 valve...Miraphone...well, I guess I mean to say OLD Miraphone (plays more like a 186...made in 1971) and got it for $2800. For the money, it's a REALLY good tuba...great sound, good lacquer job, still works wonderfully. But, that is, if you can find one...
I got this one, when I had the limit of $5,000...

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:41 am

FWIW,
Jake is a real high school student and a fine young player (not a tubenet troll) here in the Atlanta area. Rest assured he is asking a serious question.

If it helps at all, I bought my 1st horn (a yamaha 821 CC) in college {my junior year}. I put a down payment of about half and made payments on the rest. But, I didn't go to a high powered school for my undergrad. I know you would like to go to a big school, most of the advice here is good about saving money and what not, you can also check into Yamaha financing. It's pretty much a credit card with a fairly bad rate (somewhere in the 20%) but it seems like people get approved pretty easy and it is accepted in most of the stores that sell tubas.

I think the best thing to do would be to save up a little and look for a good deal on a used horn here on the tubenet, or a Dillon, Baltimore Brass, etc.. Let me know if I can help,

Bill

eupher61 · Post by **eupher61** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:36 pm

too bad there aren't more Dr Young tubas to sell...for scrap!

have you checked out the price of brass at a salvage yard lately?

JustinLerma · Post by **JustinLerma** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:53 pm

Some people are able to get the money funded through their college. Also, student loans are a possibility but the whole paying back thing SUCKS! Also you could finance a horn through the bank, once again the paying back thing sucks.

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:06 pm

My only comment is that it is unbelievable the instruments that some high schools have for the kids to play on. You repair guys, you know exactly what I'm talking about. The kid who is playing tuba in the orchestra that I used to play in, is using a school-owned BBb that looks like it got run over by a tank. Leadpipe squished almost flat in one place; I'm amazed he can even blow it, much less get it to sound like a tuba. Not much volume, but somehow I doubt that is his fault. And for a high school kid in a community orchestra, he does a good job, as good as or better than many of the adult amateurs who have honked on the tuba parts. I hope he goes on with it.

MA

tubaguy9 · Post by **tubaguy9** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:17 pm

MaryAnn wrote:My only comment is that it is unbelievable the instruments that some high schools have for the kids to play on. You repair guys, you know exactly what I'm talking about. The kid who is playing tuba in the orchestra that I used to play in, is using a school-owned BBb that looks like it got run over by a tank. Leadpipe squished almost flat in one place; I'm amazed he can even blow it, much less get it to sound like a tuba. Not much volume, but somehow I doubt that is his fault. And for a high school kid in a community orchestra, he does a good job, as good as or better than many of the adult amateurs who have honked on the tuba parts. I hope he goes on with it.

MA

With a decent horn, I bet that kid could be amazing...
Sort of reminds me...The director we used to have would have each instrument chem cleaned each year, along with having dents removed...Our horns don't look like crap.
I was just at an honor band, where one kid had a Yammie YBB-321, and the side accross from the bell was very dented up...I'll have to say, MOST of the time, the horn is sharp if the tuning slide all the way in, (unless it's a crappy instrument *cough, cough, Weril Bass Bone, cough, cough*) But almost all dents have some effect on the horn, including intonation (that kid's horn's intonation was flat, because of the dents...)

pulseczar · Post by **pulseczar** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:19 am

a 16 year old owning a something worth $10k+ and actually paying it off? That requires some serious focus and dedication.

If you're not willing to pull out a loan or getting a second job or going the extra mile, it's probably not worth it.

BUT, I really wish you the best luck. Hang in there, save some money and once college rolls around the corner, go for the student loans, and search Tubenet because financing has been discussed before.

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